🌸 Preservation Evoker is WEAK and PATHETIC

:cherry_blossom: https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/game/pvp/leaderboards/shuffle/evoker/preservation

As of making this thread, there are only:

  • 58 Preservation Evokers above the Duelist threshold (2100 CR)
  • 247 Preservation Evokers above the Rival threshold (1800 CR)
  • 506 Preservation Evokers above the Challenger threshold (1600 CR)
  • 945 Preservation Evokers above the Combatant threshold (1400 CR)

This specialization is so weak and underperforming that reaching a mere 1800 rating literally puts you in the top 250 players of your specialization in the entire European region. There are also fewer than 1000 players above the entry level “combatant” rating at 1400, which is lower than the default starting MMR in the game.

Meanwhile, there are:

  • 597 Restoration Druids above the Duelist threshold (that’s right, there are more druids above 2100 CR than there are Evokers above 1600 CR)
  • 379 Discipline Priests and 111 Holy Priests above the Duelist threshold
  • Over 1000 Mistweaver Monks and Restoration Shamans above the Rival threshold.

“Well, Prevoker just isn’t as popular as the other specializations!”

:x: WRONG :x:
I mean no, it’s true, but that reason alone doesn’t explain it all.
See Death Knights for example - a very popular class, right? And yet, the Frost DK numbers are just as bad as the Prevoker numbers. All the DKs on the ladder are playing Unholy.

Class popularity isn’t just a “cool factor” thingy, it’s a well known thing that people reroll to the FOTM and avoid weak specializations like the plague. People like to see results when they’re invested in the game.
And Preservation does not show results, it’s extremely weak, lame, sad and pathetic with its short range, cone abilities, reliance on raw throughput and weakness in dampening, as well as its GCD inefficient playstyle with mandatory Echo spam.

We need Prevoker buffs.
And we need them…

NOW.

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Gets popcorn and waits for the flaming and trolling to start.

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Why “flaming and trolling”? Because I’m Slapface?

This is a very serious thread about a real World of Warcraft related issue, back up with real data provided by the game itself.
I’m not sure what’s “trolling material” here, it’s a genuine issue I’m bringing up.

You are better toning it down a bit and posting in the envoker forums.

Nobody ever visits class forums, let alone the Evoker ones.
Do you tell people who make Raids & M+ threads to leave and go to the “Dungeon & Raids” section of the forums as well?

You’re the one trolling and derailing this thread.
Begone, intruder.

You ask for buffs for every class you play gets a little boring reading you use GD instead of class forums, ptr forums or in game suggestions.

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Dont worry I wont post again here. Only to state, plz get the crazy cat man/lady title.

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Trashtalking and making assumptions is fun and all, but I provided numbers.

If you can’t deny them, your claims have no value.

Not trash talking you just saying what it is , next week you will be back asking for MW buffs , then week after that will be shaman and rinse and repeat . You know the rules about suggestions and then you wonder why you get banned so often.

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Disingenuous.

You have an issue with Preservation Evoker in one game mode. That does not mean it is ‘WEAK and PATHETIC’ in its totality. Deliberately misrepresenting your argument to get a click-baity title is possibly why the responses to your threads are less than warm…

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Exactly they are doing good in m+ and well in raids currently.

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So, the three weakest specializations, and the three least represented on the ladder?
Does the fact that I play those specializations somehow erases the fact that they are not performing as well as the others?

The anti-Slapface bias is insane in this thread.
None of you are considering the data I provided. Those numbers speak for themselves, yet you choose to ignore them so you can focus on some good old Slapface bashing.

Typical, and unfortunate. I had hoped to engage in proper discussions about the state of Preservation Evokers, but I guess that’s not happening.

Please dont act the victim just saying for what it is. They are far from weak and pathetic its your usual click bait title.
Infact according to icy viens and wowhead pres evoker has the 2nd best win rate of all healers after resto shaman.

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Yes, you do tend to get those numbers when the sample size is too small.

[WoW PvP Healer Rankings: Dragonflight 10.2.5 [Jan 2024 Tier List] (wowmeta.com)](https://wowmeta.com/rankings/pvp/healer-tier-list)

I doubt the above “is to small”

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It is.
I am once again asking you to stop ignoring the numbers I provided.

570 Druids are at Duelist rating (2100) vs. 506 Evokers at Challenger rating (1600).
The “Retpocalypse” in season 1, the Augmentation Meta in season 2, as well as the Demon Hunter meta we are in clearly show us that people WILL pick any spec as long as it’s overpowered.

If Prevoker is just as good as you claim, why are there fewer Evokers at challenger rating than there are Druids at Duelist rating?

I didnt claim anything just because people hardly play them doesnt make them bad they are A tier and have a good win rate so that means not weak.
I ignore your numbers as i rather facts from people i know do the real facts.

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My numbers come from the official Blizzard solo shuffle ladder, as they were when this thread was created.
I even provided a link, you can check them right now.

mabye its because the spec isnt weak but a failure. i would even say the whole class was a mistake :joy:

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Yet you call them weak when

They are A tier
They have 2nd highest win rate

So in your mind just because not many in ladder means they are weak? :man_facepalming:

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