🎭 GD Chat Room (Part 3)

Community General Discussion
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I suggested that already once :smile:

I dont care really what other people got or havent got in a video game, I only care of my own game. Others could do same too and not defend timegated things but they can do what they want aswell I dont really care of that either :dracthyr_shrug:

It has mail its nice, if I played ah and professions I would buy it I guess. I got some irl bills that weight more now, and I only play pvp so I dont really need ah enough to invest more than 20 euro on it. Some ppl who play ah+professions will find it nice Im happy for them being able get it now if they want :sauropod:

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Well, an early Xmas pressie for me from the missus - quite a divisive subject, but she got me a spirit board from the fantasy artist Ann Stokes

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To be honest I think Blizzard have been really stupid with this decision. Reasons, a lot of players will be annoyed at the price, it is expensive compared to most mounts they offer. So yes I believe a lot of people will buy it, but not everybody, and they must have known how divisive this would make the community, possibly resulting in a lot of subs lost.

It makes me ask myself the question, why do they always seem to go for short term profit? So imagine instead if they offered an AH orb (similar to the one we have for the warband bank) which works exactly the same but obviously gives you access to the Auction House, it could even have a cd attached. Selling this at £20 - £30, it would go like hotcakes and I would imagine the majority of the playerbase would buy it, also it wouldn’t alienate so many of the players in respect of price, or annoy those who had already paid a huge sum for the original Brutosaur. If they kept it permanently in the shop, it would continue to sell for new players etc. It’s got to be more profitable in the long run don’t you think?

Or is this just me, I know I tend to over simplify things.

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It isnt just an AH mount though, it also has a mailbox npc on it :dracthyr_shrug:

Its the brutosaur+

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You really think people bought the mount for it’s looks and not the functionality/convenience? I have the Yak (like most people do) for repairs/mogging, the bear they released is a lot cuter than than the yak, so I can see the appeal for that. Maybe it’s me, I never saw the appeal of the Brutosaur as a great looking mount (other than the +1 to collections), I always saw the appeal for it as the convenience it offered. But who knows, maybe people love the aesthetics of the mount too.

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Yes, you are right. I agree. Because my post was about the mounts aesthetic and looks…

goes back to being squashed by ginormous magma balls in RP

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This makes me want to ask so many questions, but I will refrain as I am not sure if the answers would be suitable for the forum :wink:

It seems you got into RP after all :slight_smile: I remember our convo one day when we were with Brig (the throwing into the river incident) do you remember?

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Shameless profiteering, most definitely.

Stupid? No I disagree. Whoever at Blizzard decided to put in a reskin and charge the masses 60 quid KNOWING full well that people would immediately see it and grab the credit card definitely knows how business and capitalism works and more importantly, knows their playerbase.

Blizzard could have put this in the shop for 200 quid and you’d still get people falling over themselves to buy it.

Also bear in mind Emje that the vast majority of WoW players have the attention span of a gnat. Give it a week, and people will get bored of mounting this new eye candy just to get a reaction, and the people raging will have moved on to the latest “blizzard outrage bandwagon”. And it’s like I said to another person.

People still continue to believe that Blizzard are some sort of fabled benevolent game designer who always catered to their every whim and desire nd never ever put profit before the player.

They’re talking about a game developer who not only charges them a sub, but also charges them 10 quid of they want to change a name, charges them 25 quid of they want to faction change and 15 quid if they want to change realm.

And they’ve been doing that for as long as I can remember.

The amount of money they will get from this new mount pales in comparison to the amount of money that have raked in from basic services that should in no way whatsoever be monetized.

The financial department of Blizzard are geniuses at manipulation and money making.

They KNEW the community was crying out for the return of the brutosaur, vastly overpriced gold sink that it is and only really useful for AH players, which is why you never see them far from a mailbox, so they went for the golden goose of sticking it in the game shop.

So not only did they manage to rake in thousands (by now likely tens of thousands) of shop transaction revenue, they also had the bonus of token sales. Within 30 minutes of it being announced the token tab of the ah was completely empty. It will fill with new tokens every half hour, and be emptied within 10 minutes.

Shameless profiteering? Yes. I expected nothing, NOTHING, more or less from Blizzard who quite frankly make loot boxes look almost positive gaming and put mobile phone gaming to shame. In fact most mobile phone game developers are right now looking at Blizzard with vehement jealous hatred.

But stupid? Oh good lord no.

We’re the stupid ones for rushing to empty our wallets and throw our money at Blizzard. And they know it.

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Theyve been doing same with tokens for years. Tokens ruin the game really as a mmo but ppl buy them and they definitely wont stop selling them when they make money. I bet it affects the prices in ah aswell just cause tokens inflate prices if they can ask anything and ppl just go to their wallets to buy the amount gold asked anyway with token. Just like with rents in capital if its already assumed that goverment gives support to everyone on their rents then the landlords also know they can put whatever pricing when it gets paid anyway whatever they ask, I think its exactly same with tokens and ah pricing.

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Oh I agree Blizzard are definitely not a benevolent institution with their players best interests at heart :wink:

I don’t doubt they will sell a lot already, but not everyone will buy it, for some it will be because of the price, some will take a stand on what they call predatory practices etc. But I still think if they had gone for a less expensive price, they would sell substantially more and continue to sell them for years to come (if they didn’t have the FOMO) attached. Although I admit I didn’t think of the token aspect, so maybe it could be more profitable with this factored in.

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That’s why they did it.

Get a very popular mount that has a large notoriety and is a very valuable and yet, useless to most players e-preen in the shop.
Make it expensive. Really expensive. But not so expensive that it puts people off except for the whales who would buy it if meant their mortgage. That’s not Blizzard’s target. Who IS their target though, are the people who jussssst hover over the “buy” tab in the shop screen thinking “hmmm 60 quid… its a lot. I can afford it… Or can I… Oh wait. WoW tokens!”

These people now rush to the AH to buy a token and convert it.

The people selling tokens watch as the price in gold for their tokens goes through the roof, they will never buy the ah mount from the shop, they just want the gold from the token. So what do they do. They go to the store and buy more tokens. Blizzard meanwhile sits back and watches the sales of the mount AND tokens ensuring they all get a bonus from the shareholders that year who in turn get their bonus in dividends from revenue generated from all sources that year.

I can safely say that for every Gilded Brutosaur Blizzard will sell, at least 5 tokens will be bought.

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I guess I am not that financially astute lol

I won’t be buying it anyway, it’s getting closer to Xmas and all the expense that brings. But even if that wasn’t the case, I doubt I would buy it. I know it will be different for others, but I just don’t see WoW as my long term MMO/game anymore, and I am a tight git and would rather pay that money for some future new game :wink:

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As long its like this we wont see another mmo, mmo market seems brutal that we are either big or we dont have future plan, all the smaller games that are not top just die away and dont sell longer than few years. Single player games just sell once and mmos have to remain big to continue sell. I really hope we get new mmo with modern engine at some point :+1:

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Me too, would love another MMORPG, something fresh with new ideas instead of the same old formula. But to be honest I also love the survival genre, so when not playing an MMO these are the games I go to, or Action RPG’s been some great games released over the last 3 years and I have played a lot of them. Also it’s surprisingly cheap to play them (usually buy the game and play - no subs etc).

Although I know not everyone will like the same games/genres as I do :wink:

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Current pvp isnt even mmo anymore when they put everything into soloq but didnt rework rated system in anyway and they just killed participation in the group contents and you cant play with your friends really as theyre all dead modes worth nothing now, since DF I dont think Ive talked with anyone inside the game for last over 4 years and this is suppose to be mmo. Just one day I was thinking to join some pvp community for social aspect in the game but figured whats the point if nobody plays together and its just soloqs.

My bnet is full of ppl that everyone spam soloqs and theres no reason to ask anyone play like this, they got rated system that is entirely based on participation and then they create soloq modes with easyer rewards that lure ppl from x to y and completely kill the old mode in process but dont compensate for it in anyway or rework the rated systems, essentially killed all group related gameplay in pvp with it and this was still suppose to be mmo :dracthyr_shrug:

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Showing my age here lol but I miss the old days when we would go to the opposite factions main city to pvp outside, spent many an evening just having some fun pvp had a great time and made a lot of friends in the opposing faction too.

I stopped pvp’ing in WoW, it’s not that fun anymore.

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Aye, I often miss classic wow increasingly since latest expansions, Im just not one of those that go play classic I play this retail till its over :smiley:

I think as whole the original wow were better game and played as whole as a mmo in its entirety. Now its this that stand in town and press qs cause no reason to do anything else either if I play pvp.

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Hey we are in our prime :joy:

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Best time I had PvPing? Was when I was untouchable standing on the hill outside Elwynn Abbey.

I had my pet run around killing guards alerting everyone that the Abbey was under attack. And they came. All eager for my head.

Except. As long as I did not use ONE SINGLE ATTACK on a guard, or any alliance player, my PvP status would remain the same. They couldn’t even kill my pet, the glorious Loque’Nahak. Because PvP wasn’t being triggered. So there I was. Standing on a hill surrounded by /spitting alliance, and my pet killing NPC’s and spamming everyone’s Local defense channel, and they couldn’t do anything about it.

Or the time I dragged an unkillable Horde NPC (a glitch)to the Stormwind Keep and let every single NPC in Stormwind Keep, (even King Varian) wail on this poor NPC unit; I got bored watching.

Last time I PvP’ed in WoW was Wintergrasp in WotLK.

Although I was rather hated in my guild by kiddies who would e preen about their "leet gamer skills on PvP when they “killed” me (despite the fact I generally stood there and occasionally threw out the odd Death n Decay just to annoy them). I would then say… Hmm… fancy a game of Unreal or Street Fighter? I still remember one young lad proudly boasting “Yeah I’ll destroy you on Street Fighter!” and despite the warning from my GM who had seen me play her young lad who also made such a boast (He was absolutely obliterated by my Vega at least 5 times before he abruptly dced in a huff as his mum’s laughter echoed in my headset), we meet up and… well. he lasted a match and a half, went back to WoW and removed all his toons from the guild much to the amusement of the members online who laughed even more when I came online and told them what happened.

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Stuff like this or sneaking around Ironforge and going into battlegrounds with group of friends is the traditional type mmo pvp, should always been the main focus too. After they began steer away from that I went play other mmos but like with any other game that got launced after wow they all close servers eventually. I really miss warhammer online :clap:

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