🎭 GD Chat Room (Part 3)

we’ve had a decent thunderstorm here - brilliant watching it in open fields, but at least temp is dropping

I have no idea where you are but please send it to Berkshire!

Im in Lincolnshire - been following the storms, they went straight through the middle of the country, then out towards the East Coast

Glitter falls over quiz winner!

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yep, thats the guy lol

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No its just some random dude in gif he havent done nothing :joy:

Ive never heard of mexican taco pizza before. They have to be made on our fishin expedition camping trip. It seems theyre minced meat with spices and other ingredients cooked between two tortillas and then cheese on top and cooked in a frying pan, looks fairly simple to make and tasty :open_mouth:

Sending ya our 38C heatwave !
Went on a walk during noon break, not a brilliant idea, more especially after leaving my water can at my desk

I read that as Barkshire and was like “Ooh, dogs and hobbits, neat!”

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Wait Downtown Abbey were also in Berkshire! Yep, I need to see berkshire now too.

I think i wont get rain until tomorrow

Generally listed buildings can be repurposed.

Depends which band they fall under.

A taven for expample if its say 100+years old can be knocked down if the front of the building remains intact.

They did this woth our local brewery when they convrrted it to flats they maintained the front of the building but completed demolished and rebuilt the rest.

So maybe get your facts right before you go around claiming lies.

All of our local taverns in the vicinity have bern changed into flats there is one or two which remain open but they arent anylonger traditionsl taverns and have been modernised indoors to act more as a restaurant.

You dont get anymore rural than were i live either.

My area was rated the best rural place to live in england multiple times over.

If you wanted genuinly authentic tavern of ol experience, such places do exist but they are few and far between thesedays.

I mean unchanged since days of old.

If ur just looking for a pub restaurant for a quick chippy and a pint you can get that anywhere.

In that sense england is losing alot of its history with its push for modernisation and diverse population

Times are changing too going back 10 years ago fridaynights used to be go out to the pub get drunk pick up drunk chicks universally in england, but now its not.

Not many people go out now.

Unless you live somewhere like essex.

Nights out like that are now limited mostly to cities now, where before it used to happen everywhere.

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English history since the Roman invasions has been one long push for modernisation and diversity and if you want to be clinical, even further back with the amount of different tribes in what was England at that time all diversifying at one point and modernising. Ever heard of Skara Brae from the neolithic times of Standing Stones? The very epitome of “Stone Age modernisation”

Just take into consideration the irony of people claiming they are so English they have so much “Anglo Saxon” blood pumping through their veins while proudly waving their flag of St George with their 3 Lions proudly emblazoned on their chest.

Anglo Saxon of course referring to the Angles of Denmark and the Germans of Saxony, who were replaced by the Normans of France who were the first to have “surnames”, for example, Aymer “De Valance”, the Flag of St George being the heraldic coat of arms of Eleanor of Aquitaine (France) and the 3 lions being the heraldic coat of arms of Henry of Anjou, again, French. Even the quintessential darling of English Royalty, Richard the Lionheart.

Was actually more Richard Coeur De Lion, because he spent more time in France than he ever did in England. In fact most historians generally accept that he lacked even the basic skill of speaking English. Yet there he is, mounted on his horse on a plinth outside Westminster, glorified by a country he spent as least of his time in as he possibly could. It is somewhat ironic, that the most vilified of Henry’s children, the villainous John of the Robin Hood stories spent more time in England than his much more popular brother ever did.

England at one point even had a Viking King on the throne. (Canute)

Then you have your most “English” of English Royalty, the Plantagenets, (again, French)
The word Plantagenet comes from the Latin “Planta Genista”

Used as a crest by Geoffrey of Anjou, the father of Henry.

The Tudors, were violent religious fanatics on either side of the Christian schism, the Stuarts, again, more French than English (although by this time more “British”) Charles the 1st, proud to the point of despot Roman Catholic who believed the Stuarts (which they all did) were little Gods on Earth divinely given the right to rule, removed and killed by the one person who at best could be described as a fanatically zealous religious genocidal bigot who has done more than any one person in the history of these isles to poison relations between the countries of these Isles.

*Fun fact, The only time Britain has been a Constitutional Republic. Take from that what you will.

Charles the 2nd, spent most of his life in exile in France, and when he took his place as King brought his very European court and VERY European way of life with him. William of Orange, (Dutch) then, of course, the German Electors of Hanover, George 1st having absolutely no English language whatsoever so had to speak to his ministers if crude Latin, then the House of Saxe Coburg with the likes of Queen Victoria, Empress of 3 quarters of the globe and her vast European family right up to World War 1 until due to English anti-German sentiment and blissful ignorance of history when they Royal House was changed from Saxe Coburg to Windsor as it remains today.

*Fun Fact. There never was a Queen Elizabeth the 2nd of Great Britain and the United Kingdom because there never was a Queen Elizabeth the 1st of Great Britain and the United Kingdom. There was, however, a Queen Elizabeth the 1st of England. She was succeeded by James the 7th of Scotland And James the 1st of England who became James the 1st of Great Britain in 1603 when Queen Elizabeth the 1st died with no heir, the gap having to be filled with Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots’ son, the aforementioned James, Elizabeth’s proper title should have been Queen Elizabeth the 1st of Great Britain and the United Kingdom.

As for modernisation? Modernisation has been happening in every parts of the world since man first learned how to make a wheel, start a fire to heat not only himself and his food and how to create a weapon.

Diversity? Again. England has always been a melting pot of diverse cultures and nations.

It’s just that the “Anglo Saxons”, waving their flags and their Engerlund footy tops, are too ignorant to realise their very identity is the epitome of diversity and modernization.

I could spend all day tearing apart your argument that “England has been ruined by modernisation and diversity” but just for a brief 15 minute read I gave you a very brief history of the Monarchy.

But facts never did matter to the willfully ignorant.

Another fun fact.

Tommy Robinson (Real name Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon) has a passport.

From Ireland.

From his Irish mother. Lennon.

Something to chew on next time you next see him rail about multiculturalism “poisoning and ruining England”

You really need to stop believing what this self serving loathsome reptile, quite content for his fanatics to throw themselves in jail while he skulks in Cyprus, throws up onto social media along with his fellow populist rabble rouser Nigel Farage.

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you know? the irony is about italians too. Ppl is claiming to be a proud italian heritage when til 150 years ago we were invaded by any possible ppl. Arabs, greks, celts, illyrian, spanish, french, russians, slavic, albanians, and so on.

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Factually incorrect if the building is listed.

Listing on a building covers everything exterior, interior and curtilege so the building would have to have severe and irreparable damage to have everything bar the frontage knocked down and rebuilt and even then the rebuild would be heavily controlled by English heritage and what is replaced would then be added to the listing.

If you own a listed house and want to put up a garden shed, you need permission from English Heritage to do so, the shed is then added on to the listed so if the next owners want to pull it down they need permission to do that and if any owner hasn’t gained permission for something in the past the current owner is liable.

Listing is serious and you can’t just do whatever to a listed building, the red tape and permissions to alter any single part of a listed building, no matter its grade, is tedious and long.

Look at the crooked pub.

You literally can’t even put double glazed windows in a listed building unless it is a specific, English Heritage approved type of double glazing a frame.

So perhaps you should “get your facts right” before making claims about things you know nothing of.

Yours

A history nerd, urbexer and amateur local historian.

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I always laugh when people say to me "Have you read the Illiad and the Oddysey? Man those Greek gods were so redacted

“Yeah. Name them.”

“Jupiter… Juno… Minerva…”

“whoa whoa whoa… No those are Roman gods you mentioned there…”

“No they’;re not!”

“Yes you are, you’re reading a Romanized version of the story, which is probably why you also called Alexandros Paris but that’s pedantry. the point is, the Romans took Greek culture and converted it to their ideals.”

“How?”

Well. To be fair, calling them by their Roman names isn’t your fault so I can’t really blame you for that. Sit down and here’s a little tale. Have you ever read the Aeneid by Virgil? Virgil was a Roman historian who fervently believed in the Roman ideals of virtue that were at odds with the Greek ideals of virtues. The Romans, typical of all conquerors, took what they conquered and converted it into their thinking to cleanse themselves of cultural theft. This is where you get the term “cultural misappropriation” because it’s the end product of a culture absorbed by a “superior” culture and corrupted, and when it comes to the surface it’s corruption is exposed, and people then see the original culture. The Aeneid continues from the Illiad, The Illiad ends when Achilles avenges Patroclos and allows Priam to take the body of Hector home tells of how Troy fell and Aeneas’ journey from Troy to his divinely appointed kingdom of the “Latian lands” (Italy) where it is prophesied by Jove(Zeus) that he will found an Empire that will rule the Earth. Along the way, he encounters a series of adventures (shock horror, much like Oddyseus’ adventures)

That Empire of course being, the Roman Empire. Virgil being the typical Roman Historian, which is to say, vainglorious propagandist, was determined that the virtues of the Roman would overshadow the values of the Greek.

if you read Dante in this context, you will see the underlying theme of the Commedia, in which Dante is proudly and at times nauseatingly, loudly declaring his Roman ancestry to his readers, who at the time of writing his Commedia, Italy, while a hodgepodge of separate kingdoms and regions of self-governing, such as the Papal States, was a divided community with the Roman elites on one side, and the non-Roman general populace on the other.

It is also glaringly obvious in two cantos of the Inferno. Achilles is mentioned in the Circle of Lust where Dante writes of Achilles deserting the Greeks. In the Malebolgia, Dante has Oddyseus and Diomedes, (who he calls Ulysses and Diomede) in the circle of the Evil Counsellors for the sin (as Dante sees it) if uncovering Achilles disguise so he wouldn’t be called to Troy and convincing him to fight for the Greeks.

So if we look at the Commedia in that context, not only is the Commedia a very large self-aggrandizing account of Dante’s catholicism and a very large “(redacted) you!” to his political enemies in Florence it’s also Dante very loudly and very clearly also stating his elite status as a Descendant of Roman aristocracy.

This is why you will see heavily Romanized versions of Greek literature which has become traditional, the original Greek being lost to unintentional ignorance and time. It should be remembered that for a very long time, most important literature, or indeed and literature of any value and worth, would have been written in Latin. It wasn’t until the Reformation in England that there was Bibles written in English.

Edit But this was not borne from a general desire to make the Bible more accessible, it was more of a concentrated effort by three people, King Henry VIII Cardinal Thomas Wolesley and Thomas Cromwell to break the power of the Pope in England. The Bible being converted to English simply made it a lot easier and more convenient for people to read the Bible themselves and not have to rely on it being read to them. Explaining this further would be another of my infamous infodumps. Requests are welcome or to study yourselves, a good place to start with is Henry VIII and his marriage to Catherine of Aragon.

It’s only been in the last hundred years or so that we are starting to see Greek versions appearing more regularly, but more likely Greco Roman versions with a mixture of both naming systems will be used.

*Fun fact (I know, you all hate these) but the Legend of Achilles has different tales depending on which side of the Trojan war the writer favours, the Greeks favouring Achilles as the quintessential Greek warrior hero, while more Roman-leaning storytellers have Achilles deserting the Greeks to marry Priam’s daughter.

But all tales end the same way.

Achilles dies after being shot in the heel with a poisoned arrow, his feet beneath his ankles being his only weak spot because his mother Thetis held his ankles when she dipped him into the river Styx to give him invulnerability.

Such is the lack of foresight from Gods and Goddesses.

Souldefiler has no chores to do today, he only has a handful of dishes to clean, he has no appointments to keep and is bored with WoW until TWW. Excuse his incessant need for unnecessary big words and long to the point of exasperated “OH SOMEONE DISABLE HIS FLIPPIN KEYBOARD!!” posts

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Just saying how it actually is here

There is loopholes where a listed building can be knocked down.

Which you yourself stated, such as building dmg.

So i dont know what you’re on a high horse about when you just are reinforcing my point.

Did i say anything negative at all about diversity?

I think not.

If i was against diversity i wouldnt currently be dating someone of a different ethnicity

I’m poor. Stop making me buy monitors!

(Also I just drooled for real… I need food.)

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