I simply don’t want to be griefed in competitive content by someone that doesn’t understand or want to optimise their class. This 1 button rotation needs to be disabled in anything past LFG and in rated PVP.
The reason why you dislike group content is because people treat you as an NPC and don’t respect you, and most importantly, your time.
Someone that deliberately toggles that in group content is literally disrespecting others time. I dont want things that encourage people to treat others as badly as they treated you.
And it has nothing to do with “THEY deciding how you should play”. Group content is like going camping with other people. You need some group compromise, and compromise cant be reached with out mutual respect.
Like I said. Its a YOU problem as well. Because its the reason you despise group content to begin with.
Just giving more tools for trolls to keep treating others as badly as they treated you.
No? The treatment you speak of is part of the ‘selection process’ for certain types of group content. It is THAT, that I hate: Treating other players as mere ‘stat sticks’ in your selection process.
But as for my general dislikes of group content:
Being dependant on others to do content.
Being dependant on other players’ performance to be able to finish content.
Faux politeness.
Having to deal with toxic personalities (sometimes).
I disagree. If that’s the playstyle that player is accustomed to and enjoys, that’s not disrepectul. It’s disrespectful to deny them that.
And you’re showing NONE towards people who would play that way.
Respect is a two-way street.
That’s nonsense. What you are trying to push here is one of the reasons.
Fair enough. And you do the correct thing on that regard. Dont like it? Dont play it. SIMPLE. So I agree 100% with you.
But. Like it or not. Wow is the way it is. And you CLEARLY said it yourself. Il quote it again to be sure:
That is the way things are at the moment. And unless you change that, what do you think of 4 people that deal with that (and like to deal with it) think of someone with a 1-button macro doing tank damage?
If me and my 10 friends choose to go out. And 9/10 people vote to go to the cinema. And I vote to go Bowling.
You have 3 options. Go to the cinema and try to enjoy it. Go alone to bowling. Make 9 people go Bowling because you feel like it. 2 options are good. 1 is not acceptable. Guess which ones.
I find you have a warped sense of what “grouped content” really means. They are people too you know…
And to be fully honest, people that DONT understand this very basic principle become this type of person (in group content):
That is why whoever goes with that type of attitude into a dungeon I always tell them the same thing: Dont do dungeons. Do the smart thing, do what Tah does. Tah is smart, Tah respects our time. And we should respect Tah’s time.
Do you think the game will become free of spiders too? (since it has an arachnophobia mode).
Do you think the game will have overly bright coloring and contrast soon too? (since it has colorblind mode).
Do you think the game will get rid of dragonriding and similar systems? (since it has motion sickness options).
So is not playing the game if you have a disability stopping you or you are bad at games.
Not everything is for everyone and that is ok.
Please Blizzard just give me an indicator showing who is using this and i will just leave any content with these 1 button andies in it. I hope some clever addon maker figures out a way to show someone using it.
All based on your biased assumptions at this time.
Besides; I sincerely doubt that the vast majority of players who would use a 1 button rotation are the types of players who would want to do content where such a decision matters enough to their perfomance to become an issue.
In other words: You are creating a problem that likely won’t exist for the vast majority of the time.
What a weird nonsensical comparison.
Someone using this system is not asking everyone to do so too. Someone using this system is not asking you to play differently.
Talking about warped sense.
I do dungeons. I just don’t do a SPECIFIC TYPE of dungeon.
That being Mythic and M+.
That statement is a contradiction. If their performance didn’t matter, why would they have any use for the 1 button feature? The reason they want it is 100% because their performance matters, that doesn’t have to be M+ or raid.
It’s not a contradiction at all.
You only see the reason you stated because that is your mindset.
What if someone uses the option because the game is just overwhelming for them?
What if someone uses the option because they physically find a need for that?
What if someone uses the option just so they can play in a more relaxed manner?
All legitimate other reasons for using the 1 button feature.
Open your mind.
Im up to doing Heroic dungeons with you. Is this an invitation?
You know perfectly well that nothing in this game exists in a Vacum. Solo content, even though its made for solo people, share gear with the other modes. And that affects you and affects everyone else.
That is just one example. We argued enough about this, and have no intention on opening this can of worms. But you know perfectly well I am concerned about the effects these things have in other game modes they were not designed for.
If this feature is made for casual Open World play. So be it. But there has to be measures in place to keep it that way. I dont want to be the “police man” checking people’s parses in my M+ keys to try and guess if they use the 1-button macro or not and having to kick them out.
Because you said it yourself…
Yeah…
4 people are in a dungeon. They voted to play a dungeon, with the following rules. Namely:
And they will try their best (to clarify: Not top performance, just their best) to finish the dungeon as a team.
As opposed to some dude that just sits there and presses 1 button knowing very well its a DPS loss. Its a lack of teamwork attitude that is necessary for M+.
If they are overwhelmed and they physically have a need for it…it is performance based. So their performance matters. It has nothing to do with mindset. It is objective fact. Being unable to play the game properly for any reason at all is a performance issue. It can be pet battling, mining literally anything.
Well then some of my other dislikes of multiplayer come into effect.
Like ‘having to schedule when to do stuff’. I just want to log in and play when I want.
And I think that concern is misplaced. You know that very well.
You would do that to yourself.
If you complete the dungeon, does it matter how it got done?
Nononono. Now you’re moving the goalposts.
You do a dungeon to finish it (or to get a specific drop). Period. There’s no other parameters. No ‘rules’ they agree to. They just want to do the dungeon.
I already explained why I don’t think that’ll happen a lot.
You can not believe me; but then we’re done talking about this because then it’ll just be going in circles.
You believe something specific will happen.
I don’t.
“It actually is performance based but that’s fine”
Where do you people come from lmao.
This has NOTHING to do with giving people basic support in life. This is just taking something they are unable to do and ruining it for 99% of the playerbase because 1% of the playerbase has difficulty.