Recent changes to the general tree looks nice so I would like to suggest some changes to capstone talents to frost spec tree.
Currently our tree is split into single target section on the left and aoe section on the right however I don’t feel like the capstones reflect that split.
What I would like to see- swap Frostvyrm’s Fury and Absolute Zero with Invigorating Freeze and Breath of Sindragosa.
This would result in Frostvyrm and Breath still being available for aoe builds and at the same time single target build would be able to pick up Breath of Sindragosa more easily.
If those talents would be swapped you could also think of a way to make Frostvyrms fury a choose one talent with the 2nd option being icecap. Icecap with current talent iteration would probably be only present in aoe builds but it is positioned on the left side of the tree making it quite awkward to pick up. Changing it’s place on the tree to the right side would allow players to pick it up without sacrificing a lot of talent points.
Those are some of the easy changes to the tree that in my opinion would lead to more natural talent selection.
For me it’s still a problem to have so much abilities inside talent trees - we need to build our ENTIRE kit again, spend valuable points on some things like Mind Freeze, or IBM. No, it should not be the case, when there’s a lot of different classes that have tons of abilities baseline. We got water walkies and Acherus teleport…
Maybe it’s not such a big deal to some people, because we just will take those talents and call it a day, but it only closes the opportunity of some new, fresh things that we would get otherwise.
Also, sad, abosolutely sad Frost DK noises - this tree doesn’t look terrible, but we will still play exactly the same through another expansion it seems. No cool interactions with abilities, no aoe RP spender (which is really needed). They just packed it with some old stuff and called it done, or so it seems right now.
Community was having a lot of ideas, like removing Razorice from Runeforging and applying Razorice through Frost Strikes inside Remorseless Winter, or having Obliterate and Frost Strike have a range of 8 yards whenever we have Remorseless Winter on, or Glacial Advance have no cooldown and hit in a cone, to be our general aoe RP spender? Seems like pretty simple changes that would feel fresh and entertaining and would adress some of the problems.
Throughout Shadowlands FDKs received almost zero - let me put this again, almost ZERO changes whatsoever, apart of minor PvP talent tuning in 9.1 and a little buff to Frost Scythe in 9.1.5. I get that inside of an expansion there are no groundbreaking changes, but we didn’t even got a simple tuning. That’s it. There was no changes, and it looks like we will be forgotten once again.
Blizzard should bake all the remorseless winter talents in to gathering storm and move it deeper in the aoe part talent tree and to the open spots should be howling blast talents added in
First should be the one that we have as a choice nod that ups the chanse to proc rime by 15% and get 8 rp on howling blast
second talent should be rime now can stack up to 2 stacks and can be spent at the same time plus your howling blast can deal 10% more damage
i think we need more things that makes our procs more interesting and i think having the talent to let us bank our procs for bigger damage but also open the chanse for us to not over cap on runic power as we can spend our RP more on frost strike/glacial advance will be good
For empowered rune weapon and the fact we can pick 2 stacks of it i dont like it this is bad the fact we end up whit a dead cd for an entire minutt is bad i think what blizzard should do when you pick 2 empowered rune weapon you should merge the ability in to instead of 15% haste it’s 30% and instead of 2 min cd it should be 1 min cd
Avalanche should not be a passive but a big cd button 4-5 min that hits hard but is a point and click that needs to be channeled for 1,5 seconds death knight is immune to any interrupts stuns and knockback effects additional effect it grants your piller of frost and empowered rune weapon 3 seconds more duration when the ability has been used
Frozen pulse should be baked in to remorseless winter when you take this passive so when RW ticks it’s damage you emit a frozen pulse in addition you have a chanse to proc rime
For glacial advance it should replace our frost strike and be tuned to be a stronger single target ability over what it is now it will deal less damage on 2+ targets and no cd on the spell any more
As for when you pick piller of frost there should be a talent row in the middel of the talent tree leading up to the dragon 3 talents
First one should be called unholy determination you gain 2% versatility passive additional effect after you have killed 10+ targets gain 8% extra versatility this will be a 2 point talent so 1%-2% and 5%-10%
Next merciless combat 2 point talent gain 50% 1 point 100% 2 point of your critical strike % as damage on your critical striking ability’s so in short if i have 20% critical chanse then it’s 20% more damage if my ability’s critical strikes like KM obliterate for instance
Next shackle the unworthy you chain your enemy in place causing the enemy to be hindered from speed boost and ability’s to flee it’s chain effect this act the same way as if you were hit by the eye of the jailer when you were outside in the maw also only few unique skills can get you out of this effect warrior can charge out of it but not leap mage can blink but ice block wont remove the effect paladin can’t freedom out of it but they can bubble out of it as for the damage effect it applies dot damage on the enemy when dk lands a KM obliterate on the enemy whit the shackle debuff it will spread it’s shadowfrost damage on to other enemy’s also the target afflicted by it’s effect take 5% more damage from the frost death knight
For the improved frost strike that buffs it by 10%-20% should be removed and it’s place shattering strike should be added when you get to 5 stacks of razorice you consume this debuff to make your next frost strike/glacial advance will hit for 250-500% more damage ofc any tuning to make sure it’s not outright op will be needed ofc
As for the other talent on the other side of the frost strike called runic command this should be baked in to invigorating freeze so a new talent can be added in it’s place that should be called chill of northrend when the death knight lands X amount of frost strike/glacial advance you will blast the enemy whit a glacial lance this ability will also apply razorice on the enemy and deal decent amount of frost damage glacial advance also enables this effect to proc on other targets hit by glacial advance
For breath of sindragosa i dont like that it’s the only last talent on this side of the row you can take as your cd so i think this should be turned in to a Choice nod just like ice cap and obliteration this new talent should be called summon lich the death knight opens a death gate from ebon hold where a lich will emerge from the lich will replace the raise dead ghoul and be tuned based on if you take this talent in the class talent tree also the lich will have few unique talents that it will use first is shadowfrost bolt this ability slows the enemy target by 50% next is frost armor the lich will buff the death knight and it self granting both it and the DK 30% armor and 5% stamina any attack on the lich or DK will slow the enemy’s melee/ranged attack speed of the enemy by 25% next is frozen storm 1 min cd for 5 seconds the lich will channel multiple icy tornadoes on a targeted location by the lich next ability whit a 20 second cd per use is called shadowfissure this ability has a smal detonation radius but if hit it will hit really hard on the enemy caught in it’s blast last ability this is something the lich will cast right away when you summon it this ability is called frost bomb this ability hits for low damage but roots any enemy hit by it if the enemy dies whit the frost bomb effect on hem it will detonate a second time hitting for way higher damage on any enemy caught by the second detonation from it’s effect also in additional for every target hit by any of the lich’s spells your next rime proc howling blast will deal X amount of increased damage based on how many stacks and when you use rime proc howling blast
Frost looks like a decent tree, there is some adjustments that could be made, especially that BoS is allowed to get Icecap + BoS, while obliteration is not.
However the new Bonebreaker talent looks very interesting and will give 2H frost a huge Snowball effect, which can be very interesting gameplay wise.
Glacial Advance is a good bandaid, but i’d rather have it be built into KM procs like it is now with our tier set bonus. Especially if BoS is getting Icecap.