Well you either rush and not using cc to get timed run or communicate with group and cc’ing mobs, starting from something like 12-13 you can’t have both.
Ideally they dont up all the item level rewards of all content and then just let the Gear rewards of M+ scale +5 more
So in 8.0 rewards would scale to +10, 8.1 +10 still gives the same as 8.0 +10 only now ilvl rewards scale to +15
Considering you can microprogress easily in this system the catchup is no longer needed anyway
i rarely go higher than an 8 purely and simply because i refuse to install raider io and if you dont have it you get insta refused at anything higher than an 8 but that suits me fine i dont have to put up with elitists and if i do want higher i go with my guildies just for the challenge of a 10
I think you misunderstand how it works. You exist on raider io whether you have the addon installed or not.
This is the data it has on your character
That is the score people with the addon would see.
The only way you could hide your score, is to register on the website and instruct it to hide your characters. But there is little point. If you have no score it’s just like having a low score.
Firstly you don’t need rio installed to have rio rating,
Secondly you are insta declined because you have 393 ilvl which is waaaaay below what other players applying have
Find some friends or guildies to play with and push a key if you want to. That’s way no one will care and you can all just have fun. If that appeals to you ofc. If you have no interest in doing a weekly +10 then that’s all good too.
Play the way you want to.
well i never knew that but that also kind of explains insta declines as well…
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so if i just wear all those usless 400 items i have that are actually worse than lower lvl items that makes it ok…again it kind of defeats the object of doing them to learn and to also get certain items to improve your performance either way the raider io is harming people trying to better themselves
You max ilvl is shown in queue, noone will inspect you to check if your equipped ilvl is 2 levels lower.
It’s just that 20 dds with 400+ ilvl queue withing a few seconds of a +10 key being listed and most of them also have 800-1k rio.
If you were to apply for a job, would you get mad that the guy that has 5 years more experience and also better qualifications gets the job over you?
Raider io score isn’t based on your ilvl. It’s based on your experience of the dungeons you run. It is a scoring system.
So to get a 1k score you basically do a +10 on time in every dungeon. A key on time awards a higher score than a depleted one.
@punyelf. I don’t feel I need more of a challenge. I just feel like I shouldn’t be able to do a +10 the week the raid comes out when I’ve only killed 2 heroic bosses that week. They could make raids easier as another suggestion, but it’s really more about the balance of difficulty between raids, and mythic +.
IF a +10 is easier than 70% of the bosses in BOD, and drops the same 400 gear on farm + a 410 once per week. It’ seriously hurts the value of raiding.
I have no interest in pushing keys, I just farmed some +10s when the raid came out. Because I did though 90% of my gear comes from m+, and raids offer very little gear.
The first week of BoD had M+ limited to 385 ilvl still, so I don’t know how you managed to invalidate heroic BoD as soon as the patch hit.
Other than that, no it really doesn’t. Can we stop pretending that heroic is the relevant raid difficulty?
I really don’t get your gripe. Many still don’t time 10s. They just complete them once week. They push a key to a ten then run it and often go over timer.
They aren’t meant to be undoable.
Did anyone actually read the original post?
He said its weird that +10 drop 400 ilvl, same as HC bosses which he thinks is harder AND can only be done once a week while +10 can be spammed even if not on time. This makes it so people can complete this “easy” content over and over and over and get same (or even better) gear faster and easier.
Im not saying I agree with OP at all but all of you shouting “JUST PUSH HIGHER KEYS IF U WANT HARDER CONTENT!!!” just doesnt understand the post at all.
How can someone call content they don’t even properly complete “easy”?
If you don’t time a +10, how is it easy when you have failed the related challenge? Which comes with a penalty of rewarding 1 item less and key degradation as well, it’s not a full reward.
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I have no damn clue if OP can complete a +10 or not in time. He SAID it was easier than HC, which makes the 400 ilvl reward from +10 too high IN HIS OPINION. I dont agree at all and it would be easy to argue against it.
All I am saying is that this thread is full with responses like “Then don’t do raids” or “Just push higher keys if you think +10 is too easy” which means they didnt understand the OP at all.
He is talking about what he thinks is a balance problem in the game gear wise. Not that they are too easy. Its like if LFR droped the same ilvl gear as normal raids, it would be unbalanced. This example is more extreme ofcource but thats what OP want to say, that the balance between HC raid and M+10 is off. Nothing about it being to hard or to easy.
queue shows your bag/equpied ilvl whichever is the highest.
But for much of the player base it isn’t easy content. So I simply don’t agree, and don’t understand the gripe.
Mythic plus is meant to be an alternative or addition to Raiding. It is doing what it is supposed to.
He is not saying its easy. He is saying its EASIER. HC raids is not easy content for much pf the player base either, but acording to OP much harder than +10 and still give same gear and can be spammed.
I really cant explain this more than I have done, I guess we just have to give up.
I dont agree with OP either just for the record. Still most of the people in this thread doesnt even unerstand the point he is making.
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