I was just reading the official 11.1 notes. We have 2 lines of changes when all classes have 10s of them.
Bliz …What is your problem with rogues really ?
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I mean blizzard probably dont have a rogue dev, the new mog coming out speaks for itself. Plunderstorm season 2 is soon TM and they choose that for a mog for rogue, bad taste on blizzards part.
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If blizz is out of rogue ideas, I can give one… bring back acrobatic strikes
pls
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but what about the pvp changes) withdrawal of bleeding relief and removal of shadow duel)
We have least amount of changes out of all specs (literally several lines of text for whole class vs 10 paragraphs per spec for each class) but we lost the most. Rogue lost 4 mandatory PvP talents. And gained 1 questionable instead.
As an outlaw I’m bottom dps in PvP and m+, low - mid in raid, have the least raid and m+ utility, also can’t 1v1 anyone in world PvP, except other rogues. Tww is first exp I’m playing with wm off because I can abused literally by anyone with 0 chance of winning.
Rogue is the absolute worst class in the game rn.
Losing Veil of Midnight sucks donkey dick.
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The Blizzards want all rogues to become dwarves.
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Honestly i would like to see ONCE a blue post here to confirm that they are aware how bad they have done this class and specifically the outlaw spec and they will work on it.
I mean look at the KS…worse finisher ever…re worked …still worse…buffed…still worse…i mean guys get a f**** grip. The talent is garbage either re work it to benefit the specs kir or ho or simply remove it!!!
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What do you need to change? Rogue is probably in one of greatest spots within all classes for all content m+ raid pvp. No need to change if all works correctly
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Says someone who never played sub and outlaw…with a raiding and m+ guild that has total 2 main rogues both sin and from those only 1 coming to m raids…
Sin is not bad overall indeed.
Not sure if “all works correctly” when from the 3 dps specs you get to play only one as viable.
Both outlaw and sub need much re work. Even gave you for outlaw an example with KS…it was a MAIN change on last re work…to be buffed …re worked again…buffed …and still 0 rogues to use it.
The forums is for rogues though. I wont post in Shamman’s as i have no clue what changes you need. Better try a forum for a class you know.
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In PVP Outlaw is very good, it`s in a great SPOT! the one issue is it plays the same as DF with Fatebound but the Spec is very good! can t speak on PVE.
sub will always be better at a higher rating rather than low as is Outlaw.
I would agree of the three specs Sub is in the worst place but Outlaw is good bro!