Hey Blizzard and community friends.
I’m Playing mage since the begining of “the burning crusade” expansion.
Throughout the years it was almost ALWAYS a choice between frost and fire as a DPS class for PvE purposes. Arcane was always on the lower damage end and always felt like an “incomplete” spec.
After trying it out on PTR i was so thrilled to finally play arcane as a main spec and boy it was so much fun.
Up until 2 days ago as 627 ilvl arcane Sunfury mage i was always top 5 (out of 14) damage if i got all of my rotations right.
I went to raid yesterday - i was bottom 3 dps with people in the group gear ilvl 612 lol. i checked my rotations and they were almost perfect.
This nerf is BY FAR the biggest nerf i’ve seen happening in 1 patch.
Arcane barrage no crit now hits 240-400k … even less than arcane blast. this is ridiculos! the spender itself is so dependent on many empowerments that many times you need to stop your rotation to avoid losing the empowered-by-proc opportunity and even then you can’t really ramp it up.
I would have gone Spellslinger but due to its random orb fires (which can cause ninja pulls) - i wont do it.
So now for the first time - i feel like some1 in blizzard just gunned mage down.
The motivation to play the game and enjoy it is just GONE because even if you ACE your rotations - and you are extremely well geared - you are still bottom chart dps.
You nerfed too much, and also you change our entire rotation almost weekly.
Take responsibility - make a PROPER TEST and remove this uncalled-for nerf. or at least some of it.
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I am totally in the same boat and fully agree.
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Great last minute tuning in response to a mindless mob that had a meltdown over misinformation from Wowhead, who just made up that Arcane was getting a 12% buff. And the devs topped it off by actually bowing to such morons… what the hell am I still doing here?
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Honestly i dont know - this is getting me of just switching to other games. feels like i wasted time gearing and investing so much into this mage now. where is the respect to people time?
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As a warrior main all i can say is… first time? 
jokes aside these sudden nerfs are a panic repsonce in due to the a protest that was launched the week prior on US servers in responce to the first supoced change that saw buffs to mage, Deathknights and shamans, the 3 of the top preformers in mythic pluss, whiles many other dps was facing weekly nerfs or nothing at all still struggling to keep up with them.
groups where fromed on the LFG Key lists 10-15, with 1 person just saying “PROTEST” and flat out tock up so much of the key list people could not even use it to find groups.
aint just mages that got shafted, the Frost DK nerf also ended up nerfing their tanking performance as an example.
It dose however highlight how little the blizz team look in to the tons of data they are being given, weekly by raid logs.
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Hey, I’ve been playing arcane mage for years. At the beginning of this expansion the arcane mage was extremely fun in terms of game style and he was balanced but now the arcane mage is completely useless and is at the bottom.
Sunfury was nerfed to the core just to be able to play spellsinger, even though this hero tree is simply too weak and sunfury is no longer an option.
At the beginning of this expansion the classes were more balanced than they are after these 100 class changes.
THIS IS THE ULTIMATE DOGSHI*T!
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I agree, i wonder if this post actually get to blizzard dev & product. Or do they only make decisions based on mindless mob from the US realm?
Blizzard -would love your comment here. Im willing to be a test subject, make a proper test. Like any other big product.
Or you will experience churn - like any other software product that doesnt make proper testsbefore making significant changes like that.
as a mage main for the entirety of wow existence, i cannot understadn hwo can some people call current arcane design good
sometimes i tell myself, yeah, maybe and i say MAYBE they play only pve, and deisgn NEVER F MATTERS in there, only dmg done does.
surge has to go
sunfury and spellslinger both feel awful, dragonflight had a better design and it made more sense for both fire and arcane, and id say even frost
and if i sound mad is because w/e i have issue with the mage class and i talk it out on discord with other mages, we realize that one of the problems is people who most likely suddently picked up mage and like it
Hey Magegod 
This thread is specifically about PvE experience.
However - yes in pvp right now frost makes most sense and arcane is just weird to play as pvp arena mage.
I picked up mage before most players thought to install WoW lol 
but u rarely have a concept of a class that is just completely different depending on content
and this is why i HAVE to talk about it w/e someone is like “mimimi mage in arena 3v3 is op lets nerf his tookit” (funny now stats implies its not even good in there) but as a bg enthusiast knowing that Mage is one of the 3 worst classes in tier list for MORE THAN A DECADE
w/e i hear someone talk about design or nerfs when we are already in a bad spot, kinda forces me to jump in and being the “white knight” of calling BS.
You can try Frost Mage lol. It is currently the worst spec in the game, it has less dps than Augmentation Evokers (2nd last raw dps).
And ofc no buffs coming in the next reset tuning.
What are you talking about m8, its best mage spec atm and doing very good compared to other classes?
Totally agree, we deserved nerf, but not this much, rn its unplayble spec, we are not decent on aoe, we are not decent in ST, my myth raid experience feel awful after patch. I’m 628!!! Mage and cannot even be top 5 dps on ST bosses against 620-625 ppl, i’m losing almost every class rn no matter what boss it is(the most awful is ovinax tbh). Before nerf i could easily make 1.2-1.3 mln dps, rn i’ve got a 1.15 treshold
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Kind of strange that you say that Naviic. because your logs show that you play and raid on FROST since 11.0.5 patch (and quite good at it actually).
So please, share your opinion on arcane only after you went on both HC and mythic raids as ARCANE mage and not as frost.
P.S don’t forget to go mythic this week m8, today is your last day before lockout.
Hmmm…that would be more like 17 years, I call BS 
j/k
It’s normal. They know that most ppl are addicted and they will switch to other character which means more time investement which means more money
I mean thay don’t care about players they care about money only which is pretty much the major thing and I fully understand it
You need to understand that you are playing the game when developers needs to make as much money as possible. So they will do maximum to take as much cash as possible from players by changes in a game
It does not matter if changes are sensible or not. The major thing is always → Get money from people
Check Spellsor-Runetotem i moved to draenor a few weeks ago. had 3-4 years accumulated breaks in the middle, didn’t we all?