okay, and do those casual players so desperately need that free token?
ppl just want everything for free and idk if that is the correct approach
You must be kidding, 1600 is not a big deal, they changed it from 1800. I know there is huge imbalance between PvP and PvE but please⌠1400?
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Just pointing out again, 1.4+ cr is currently above average, because not even half of the participants have reached it. This doesnât account for multiple chars from one account, but you catch my drift, Iâm not a robot.
Donât know how can it be hard to reach 1600 rating. Personally have done it in first day of season launch.
Honestly, if you really want it and cannot get 1600 in PvP, itâs easier for you to simply get curve (you can always buy a boost) or get KSM from M+.
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If u canât get 1600 u not even worth it, 1600 is faceroll.
and this is my good friend why i refunded the shadowland preorder , since moment i see ( making gear behind rating) aka (make rich more richer ) i skip the entire expansion cuz of it , good thing i got my 1600 token in DF , but many people canât with people having jobs and on
harsh gate keeping gear killed pvp in long run ,but as people no way in hell able to reroll if their class nerfed the ground and all timing you spend gearing was massive waste and needed to reroll again
its not about fair or not since mmos never was about 100% fair otherwise we be playing moba , its about how you obtain the gear that is rating instead of any other pvp alternative methods aka say as OP suggested ( win 100 SS rounds ) stuff like that
did u care to read further than that? my post is 1 sentence and you dont even manage to read that fully. way to put something out of context
I got the token through SS in the end. Wonât be doing arena for the time being outside of conquest earning.
Twos can be a nightmare if you make the mistake of partnering with someone subpar(because the goodish one isnât online), as I am not good enough to carry. SS turned out to be the easier option.
People donât want things for free, people just want a fair shake. 100 wins was the best approach in pvp as some players will literally never see certain ratings for ages, maybe years, as it just may take them that long to âgit gudâ. This is not good for things like participation numbers within pvp. X amount of wins could make sure that even bad players with an interest in pvp could grind out one off things like the token.
This is a healthier thing for the game. I hope that makes sense.
Well, because it does in fact take that long to âgit gudâ. The game is difficult, and delving into pvp with seriousness very much just isnât worth your time, Iâve been saying that to anyone thatâs asked me, itâs just the reality. Either play casually, or donât even think about it.
Just to put it into perspective, Iâll put out some statistics I read out from my account just now. Pick a guess at whether Iâve ever been a gladiator or not.
Rated Arenas
Arenas won: 9124
Arenas played: 19337
3v3 matches: 2272
3v3 victories: 1222
2v2 matches: 16562
2v2 victories: 7634
Notice the declining winrate in 2s, thatâs where I started. PvP is hard.
If u canât hit 1600 u not worth the token kinda simple, 1600 is faceroll, shoud be 1800.
1600 that u do in first day compared to keymaster is kinda joke.
Maybe in the first weeks, but after the vault being out for so long, the token should be nothing but bad luck protection. Playing vs people who have set while you dont is just not fun. Its not a cosmetic reward, it activily makes arena easier or harder for some classes
But in my opinion, if you cant write out ´´you´´ instead of ´´u´´ and gatekeep, you are not worth of having an opinion, kinda simple
1600 isnât even about " Git gut ". 1600 is more like " Play like a human being " . This does apply less to the very few trash specs in the game, like Hpal / DK.
If you have a general understanding of other specs / classes and understand yours, this should not be a problem for anybody.
Most people just do it in 2s cause its relatively easy and the tryhard nerds there usually start showing up after 1700.
Grab any Disc priest that doesnât backpedal and presses their 5 hard buttons for 2s and you should have it relatively quick.
Still 1600 is easy, if u canât hit that no token for u.
My alt is 2k+ no tier yet, i even bought pve gloves becouse i was drunk 
Also frost dk, itâs how u play not gear.
Whats your average game time though? With the amount of rounds you played ( waited for them). Most people wont have that much free time, which makes it even more important to give them access to items that are important to compete.
Even if they only boost the output by 1%, the average player will feel better having it. You need to stop seeing things from a elitist view and more for whats going on with the average pvp player. As I hope we can agree set token shouldnt be a prestige reward.
The average player is not a 2k no set frost dk, the average player is around 1300 losing motivation with hour long que times and gear disadventage
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