24k the hunt + 15k fel rush is okay?

It is not a bunch of nonsense, if you really cared you would at least try and find it yourself.

“The kids class” is a bit of an exaggeration but iirc the guy actually said something along the lines of “we want this class to be easy and to perform without being complex so that people can pick it up easily without feeling behind. It’s also great for new players”.

There aren’t many different conclusions to make out of that. But my memory doesn’t allow me to remember the exact words, so again if you care, you will look for it yourself. But calling it a bunch of nonsense when people have laughed over this well known interview for several years isn’t the correct move. It’s close to common wow knowledge to know that it indeed exists.

Ok, they want the class to be easy to play (I still need a source), but what does that have to do with kids? I am 30 years old, I am not a child, sometimes I play simple and sometimes “demanding” classes and I enjoy both equally. Like I said the only classes I find hard to play are SV hunter, rogue and I forgot to list demo lock, and that’s it.

I know you’re biased and not objective, I’ve told you that before, I know that you passionately hate DH and that is why your opinion and comments do not mean too much to me.

If you block on the term « kid class », I agree, Ion didn’t say that, that would have been counter productive. But he admitted that DH had been designed to be easy to pick up and straightforward. Which is saying a lot since DH wasn’t the first easy class, we had ret, warrior, boomies… already

But the point is that all classes are easy to pick and straightforward. The difference is in perfecting the game with a certain class. Here I often see DH vs I win never easier, and I also see DH vs the arena is a real nightmare, just like vs rogue players, warriors, etc. That’s why I say stop talking nonsense about what’s easier and harder. All classes are similar in this segment, the biggest difference is made by the players (and gear).

Even if he said that, it was before when classes/specs actually had differences in terms of difficulty, but in the last 2 exps that is certainly not the case, and that was probably their goal.

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Okay and what did I type exactly ? Lets see.

And bla bla bla. So you see, I am not saying it is a kids class either, unlike someone else above, I simply state that a devs interview displays as it easy on purpose. Which isn’t too far from some of your own words, when I read this :

So again, you don’t even seem in total disagreement with me on the fact that it is somewhat easy, and, for the second time, I am not the one saying it is a kids class.

So 1) you don’t disagree on my statement and 2) I’m not the one saying the thing you’re making a fuss about. Maybe then chill with the attacks such as that :

Especially since I don’t passionately hate DH in a specific way at all, so on top of being out of place such a comment is wrong, even. What I dislike is results without effort, something that DHs used to have quite a lot, which is why they got my dislike in the first place. But it isn’t a DH hate issue at all. Other classes and specs had, and have, the same dislikable trait (BM Hunters, for instance).

I played both also and yes, DH is much easier, I don’t know how one can disagree with that. You basically have 3 buttons as DH for DPS.

HELLO!?!?!? Youre on the internet dude, just google it. Lol. Everybody knows that DH was the easy class, just because it has less spells compared to other classes. Its not a kids class, its just an easier class to play with. I mean we people that play Wow, could very well be the next generation of pianists. We already have the experience of pressing alot of keys in a certain order.

I actually tried to find it but there is nothing about it. I repeat, even if this is true, it refers to a time when there was such a difference between classes/specs, which is certainly not the case when it comes to the last 2 exps. End of story.

My comment about you is justified, I have been convinced of that at least 50 times, so I have such an opinion for a reason. You are constantly defending your class, while in a cultural and nice way you criticize other classes/specs and players (just like most other players). The only difference is that you are cultured and well-mannered, unlike most.

So I repeat your opinion is irrelevant to me, especially bcz you understand everything very well, you are not a guy who, due to ignorance of something related to the game, talks nonsense, you simply act like that bcz you are biased and that’s it.

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Well, to do those numbers, you have to crits both abilities which is extremely lucky because DHs have less than 15% chance crit.

Eitheway, the direct damage from the hunt is nerf by 17,5% next patch and also 17% for fel rush.

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It was about Legion DH design indeed. It has arguably not changed much from Legion to BfA, slightly more from BfA to SL, but yeah, maybe small change plus small change makes this interview irrelevant now, but keep in mind that this was hoz their originally designed it, as in it was how they wanted it to be. Easily accessible. No shame in playing it.

So now you randomly throw attacks even when the content of a message goes your way ?

What a nice way to be.

You mean except the times where I point out what’s stupid about it, or too powerful ? Because I don’t give in to the idiots who don’t understand numbers and go “gO NuRfF by 50%” doesn’t mean I crusade to defend bad design, such a CiS. But I suppose when you don’t agree to everything then you hard-core defend the class uh.

Demon hunters had a good representation on BFA especially season 4, I don’t know where you saw your numbers because I saw that havoc was the most played specialization on BFA (on all formats).
If demon hunter is less played today it’s simply because the majority of players are playing fotm specs. If tomorrow DH becomes as strong as before it will be played a lot.

They had a decent respresentation because they were out of control, but comparatively, their representation has always been on the lower side. Even in BFA s4, I would be curious to see how many destro or innefable truth hpala we had in comparison.

According to arenamate:
Bracket 2s over 2k2+, September 2, 2020.

Hpala: 13.7%.
Havoc DH: 10.2%.
Destro Warlock: 9.7%.
Assa rogue: 8.8

You can’t really compare healers to DPS because overall there are fewer heal specializations than DPS.

Bracket 3v3 over 2k2+

Hpala: 11.5%
Destro warlock: 11%
Assa rogue: 10.6%.
Havoc DH: 5.9%.

DH was less represented in 3v3 compared to 2v2, because I think it was much easier for a DH to climb in 2v2 because mana rift in this meta was way too powerful.

Then the release of shadowland

Survival nerfed
No more borrowed power
Mana rift not effective in this meta and this is the result

Getting 1 shot by The Hunt every single time, 24k hits, how can Blizz allow this crap to happen? It’s so skilless and braindead.

174ilvl whine about he got one shot by The Hunt while he will get one shot by anything in the game…git gut problem,move along

DH probably is quite a skill based class in the game right now. You need good timing with good positioning, fake casting, and highest APM requirement in the game. It even requires aim shot with fel rush.

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And really don’t think so but I respect your belief.

PvP is just in a terrible state. Stuff like Covenant abilities are not healthy for the game, especially for pvp. It should be near impossible to die in an opener. Bad meta, bad design

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Them? There are more than 1? Hmm

Are you dumb? No other ability in the game can one shot me, only The Hunt, not even Convoke. Get out, clown.