And now you get NO Counduit Upgrades for M+ besides the 226. What is the Problem? i was forced to do raiding, Torghast, Rift farm etc. just to push my Conduits to max. level. I think this is a great opportunity fot those players who focus on m+ and its just fair. With Set-Bonus reachable through M+ there is no big reason for me to raid anymore, what i like since i dont like raiding anymore. It’s 2 needed changes and will have no impact on other players. And the explanation about 20 key is done within 1 failure is just not correct. I timed 20s with 1 DPS doing tank damage, the range where you dont time with a wipe is 25++++ keys. RN 15keys are already hard outgeared by ppl, its not that hard timing 20s
i have this strange suspition that blizzard are really scared of how many players they lost that they will make m+ even easier this time. wouldnt surprise me if +20 in 9.2 were like +17s this tier when people get their 4 set bonuses.
just like they nerfed m+ significantly in 9.1 compared to 9.0
Thing is, ppl. crying mostly of the beginning of a patch, since players dont have bis gear at this times, Dungeons appear hard. Blizz nerfs them but doesnt tune back when the majority of ppl. have their BIS Gear. A + 20 Key can be hast easy as+ 5, if anyone is just doing their things correct. You even dont need to be really good since dungeon mechanics you lean the whole addon. Ppl get to the point they run through with closed eyes.
I never mentioned disbands 
But +20-21 is my pushlevel where nothing can go wrong or it is deplete.
i dont like reputation req … that is boring grind … instead of boring grind put skill requirement
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265 to 278 is a small upgrade for conduits.
To be fair even 200 - 278 is a Tiny upgrade in 90 % of cases . If you plan to just hc raid and do 15s then 200 conduits are more then enough
you get 265 by just doing 15s and hc raid anyway.
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If it would be account wide I would see the use of it, but this way no…
You probably don’t need any more conduit upgrades at that point. So the way I see it it’s a completely useless item.
So first of all - you don’t need the very max ilvl conduits, you will get much more dps from perfecting your rotation.
2nd of all - once you get double lego/set/high ilvl - +20 will feel like current 16/17 - so it will be very doable for majority of people who do 15-17 now.
you cannot know this - we can only speculate - it all depends how final tuning for release will be.
The worst part in all of this is that players that focus on PvP don’t get any conduits if they don’t do PvE. Only way to get them through PvP in 9.2 is getting to 2400 rating, which only 0.5% of the player base gets. Absolutely incredible that they haven’t added random conduit drops in arena yet. A lot of WoW players play WoW purely for arena and arena only. We just get ignored.
If you need - “muh game is unplayable without them!” need - iL 278 Conduits to play, it says more about you than it does how the game is designed.
If I’m able to clear mythic raid, or ALL +20s, or 2400 in pvp… why do I need conduits at 278… it would be better if those would help me to achieve those goals instead…
Guess at Blizzard HQ they’ve got all the memos scrambled 
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Or you know… 2400 PvP rating or Mythic clear of raid. Why people always gotta come after M+?
No, not really.
This is just a qol reward for just in case. But people are reading it as if the only ones that will get these are the ones that meet the criteria.
It’s like now, you get the 252 ones from farming korthia. The equivalent would be giving then to someone with xxx score now.
Not a big deal.
We should be able to get upgrade tokens like we did in Korthia… make them available from the new zone for cyphers or something.
Having to rely on rng to get the items from raids/m+ is not exactly fun… we already have to go through rng to get gear, i don’t see why adding borrowed power to the rng or bust gearing system is a good idea.
And no, getting the conduits after finishing mythic Sepulcher is lame, if i already beat the end-game without them then getting them there is like… who cares?
That’s if my guild doesn’t die for the 4th time since Nya… 
It’s a mean to an end in my opinion. Titles, mounts, cool mogs yeah I agree they should be behind great challenges. Player power needs to overcome challenges instead. Once I beat the game and killed the Jailer… I think people don’t care much of ilvl or upgrades anymore. Chill out in Oribos on top of their mounts and/or selling boosts.
I can already see Mike Ybarra advertising: “Get your 278 conduit upgrade today just for 600k gold or 2 wow tokens. Our team is professional and will get you to keystone hero in no time”
Sigh, stop being a drama queen.
You can still get max level conduits now by doing world quest level content. Same is likely to be true in the next patch.
This is just a QoL thing for people that have done high level stuff so that they can fill in the gaps easily.
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