Can we get a artificially inflation in 2v2, being Top 100 and having a raiting of 2300 is insultingly low
1.6 the new 2.1 ?
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cause blizzard killed 2v2 3v3 w there dawgsheet shuffle idea
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There are more games of rbg being played than 2v2 just delete 2v2 and make it solo q shuffle
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Deflation in 3s / 2s is massive since introduction of solo shuffle. A 5% of players who care want blizzard to step in and boost rating gains.
But the truth is from blizzard / casual player point of view solo shuffle is success. It made arena approachable for pve players and overall has bring more people to pvp. Nobody care that after you take out casuals from arenas all that’s left is sweats try hards and boosters.
Instead of approaching arena bracket deflation issue I believe next step will be solo rated bg que. It makes most sense and will be overall more benefit for growing pvp community
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Ngl i would q rated SoloQ Rbg, but it depends on the Q time
But too gain high raiting at the start you are 90% depending on how your team is performing and not you as singel player
i actually agree with pete for once but u need not mix inflation and deflation
currently anything outside soloq is deflated and soloq is inflated
imagine how pvp in wow began as 1 button to que for battlegrounds av / wsg / ab
no matter if u was playing by urself or with a group u would press that 1 button and then play 
there werent many doing pvp on the small server i were on and i quickly found group to join outside ab and farmed r14 on rog playing ab with them very casually when the game were still not about minmaxing everything and ppl in general play for fun back then 
nowadays rbg is mostly million private discord channels its not likely one to stumble on a group and joining a team from just playing the game
some objective based 6v6 like the current brawl or soloq rbg with just button to press and ur queing up for a game would be pretty sweet indeed
probably even what the future of pvp in wow will need in few years who knows 
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True I mixed these my bad
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That’s also a result of participation though, every additional player queueing up for a bracket increases the overall MMR available in the pool. I’m not claiming that the rating inflation of soloque isn’t also a result of a different rating system applied to it, but it defo also has to do with the high participation.
Soloque isn’t perfect, but it’s a 1000x better than sitting lfg for hours, doing nothing. I don’t think anything will change, unless Blizzard artificially increases the MMR in the other brackets, but to see meaningful increase in numbers, they would have to make the unique rewards (glad) easily obtainable.
If you just want to get quick rating for gear/tabard or jump in a game without much hassle, soloque is far superior.
yep the higher participation is what i were referring to and the others here i think
op were asking for artificial inflation
Thank allah your save i was abit worried after i didnt saw any posts cause of that massive earthquake. Arent you from syria?
Yo deep ypu think shuffle is good or bad for the game what would you change ?
definitely beats that oribos afking for hours 5000x
stoops made a good video of pepes adventures with lfg around sl
pretty much summed it up good with these systems
i felt so bad for the pepe who just wanted to play the game 
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It’s good for the game in general, but bad for competitive pvp, at least in it’s current iteration.
I wouldn’t change anything about the system itself rn, at least Idk how to make it better, apart from changing the way healers play rn, to make that role more attractive, I’d target the reward structure and improve massively on the lfg tool.
First of all I think the rewards should differentiate way more, to make other brackets more attractive, since there is a lot of people who just play for reward xy and once they got it, they are done until next season. The second thing is to just get rid of this old outdated lfg tool or make it to where I can enjoy the game, while actively searching for lfg. I don’t even know why there is a need for lfg, just give players a board in-game where they can advertise like this:
“I’m 3k rogue, looking for rmp or some ele+rog +x for some 3s. My btag is XXX, add me if you got decent exp, I got 3 alts, can try with anyone.”
And also make it, so I don’t have to be online looking for people, I make my advertisement, it stays up for idk a week and people can just msg me that way, next day I log in, I got someone to play with or it’s back to shuffle. Like why do we have to be online, at the monitor 24/7 cause we might miss someone queueing up for our lfg because he will cancel after 2mins of no response, it’s so bad lol. It wouldn’t solve all the problems obviously, but it would be a massive step up for the game in general, with relatively low effort, not only for PvP btw, as guilds/M+ groups would benefit massively from such a change aswell. If we rely on 3. party sources, making websites like this, it doesn’t reach enough players, if it was happening in-game, 100% of the playerbase would have instant access to it and would probably know about the option being available.
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To boost competitive pvp you would need to remake the entire game and make it accessible for new players. There will be no new players to this game (which competitive game needs) when there is so much detail to track, that it becomes borderline impossible from the very start.
The number of addons alone necessary to do basic pvp stuff is insane. I am not even talking about abilities. Now compare it to games like league where you can play right away, without spending 1 year just to set up your addons.
A good start would be to make an UI that is suitable for pvp, while also killing all current pvp addons. Things like DR, arena frames and cooldown trackers should be in game from the start.
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DR is something that should always been visible default on game when its so big part of the gameplay
its so weird even the coding dont support addons directly but its done by guess work per se
and agree alot other games can be just played without no customization on it when wow u wont be able play anything without auras and addons to show bunch of stuff 
also the accessibility for new players for brachets that need a team need improvement if they want those to still exist after soloq
something like the in-game board deep suggested would be so much better than the lfg
imagine currently ppl cant even be qued on soloq and use lfg same time its so bad
even the matter alone that u cant que soloq while use lfg alone make it that people will just que soloq instead waste hours of their time into lfg
I’m safe and sound in europe for almost a year now.
Besides im not from syria i’m persian like hadi choopan, and thanks for asking.
Ah the persian wolf aryash
Wow man you have way better ideas anyone in the blozz hq has.
They should hire you and pay you alot of money lol not even trolling.
What do you think about queeing shuffle while your in the tool lfging for normal 3s or diff idea make shuffle ppl quee into real premates, where you get less minus but more plus if you win against it could mix 3v3 ladder up aswell and 2400+50 wins also gives you Gladiator mount or something.
Not really man, I think a lot of people have really good ideas, that wouldn’t even be expensive to implement, for example the guy saying there should be different colors for each bracket and a special color for getting it in all brackets, that’s a great one imo.
That would be fun, but also very difficult to make work because of the way rating differs between the two brackets. That would probably require a completely different bracket, where you would have to specifically queue up for it I think. Also that would require healers and I doubt Blizzard wants to make the healer pool for shuffle even smaller by having available healers be stuck in these 3v3 games.
I was thinking about having a solo shuffle dps only bracket, that people can queue in between, while waiting for a normal shuffle to pop. That would be too much of a fiesta though to attach any serious rating/rewards to it, but it would require some benefits in order to make it worthwhile, so for example you could be capping your vault that way at a lower rate, compared to the other rated brackets, so that you got something to do while sitting 40mins queue, but it would still be beneficial to do so and not just “a waste of time”.
Also on the topic of lfg, I think the whole thing is just outdated. Why would we need to be online to look for people, there should rly be a way in-game to advertise and find ppl for arena, it doesn’t have to be right at that moment, could be some time in the future. But sure, people should defo be able to make grp in lfg, while queueing shuffle, I don’t understand why that isn’t a thing since basically the implementation of the lfg tool…
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