3 months later - worst season in wow history

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…by an insanely large margin.

Not only is BfA the worst expansion by far, but it’s also the first expansion where the game has progressively gotten worse with every patch.
The current state of the game is absolutely atrocious, I can’t even find any other words to describe the horrendous state of this game at the moment.
It’s absolutely insultingly bad - the corruption system truly was the final nail in the coffin for this already bad expansion, now you can get high rating by just being lucky in your weekly chest - never has that been possible before. Usually you needed atleast a little skill, even if that was already mostly eliminated in earlier BfA seasons.
You can actually loot gladiator titles and rank 1 titles from your weekly chest and from Carapace & N’Zoth mythic. Skill is not a factor at all anymore - literally completely gone, same with fun.

I really really hope Blizzard will make some huge changes in their game design philosophy for Shadowlands because if not, then this game is truly doomed. Something like BfA may never ever happen again.

Battle for Azeroth Season 4 - The Season that is bad enough to be called unplayable. The Season that makes every other season look amazing if you compare them - The Season that completely removed skill from the game.

I have endured a lot in BfA, I have built up a resistance to even the greatest annoyances when I played pvp, but BfA Season 4 truly is beyond my resistance. Won’t bother with this season anymore.

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…So true…

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Dunno I think S2/3 of BFA were worse

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I disagree. The others were definitely very bad, but atleast there was less mandatory pve gear - and it was much easier to obtain. Also: No corruption system.

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BfA season 4 is the worst season ever since I started playing this game. The fact that PvE gear has such a heavy impact in PvP atm and that there’s also a huge RNG fiesta behind it that decides if you will succeed or not is a joke.

Just the fact that a demon hunter with double heroic Ungent Caress weapons deals 20-25% more damage than a demon hunter with normal gear is laughable.
Plus the added slow on top of that. It’s insane.

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You still had broken tank trinkets and caster trinkets, but I hated it because the meta was so damn slow nothing died before late dampening. I just hated it; also disc wasn’t that great and I play with discs :S But mostly its the pace thing. I like that the pace is now better, I just don’t like why its faster. Honestly if they added like a damage pvp trinket and made corruptions and stats reforgeable, it would be okay.

But yeah, gear discrepancy is totally busted

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Yea, but those tank trinkets for example were obtainable atleast from the 4th boss in mythic (which was easily pug-able) and underrot which you could just spam. Atleast you didn’t have to find a guild for them because they’re locked behind the last 2 mythic bosses.

Yea it was slow, but I’d rather have a slow meta than random oneshots from pure RNG procs. Atleast you needed a little skill then because eventually everyone had those items while now, only a small lucky amount of players are getting the good corruptions that will passively win them arena games.

I’d rather have a little slower meta that’s a bit more predictable than a random oneshot RNG fiesta. And I’m really not saying that BfA S2 or 3 were good, same with S1.

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Having a guild formed only of glads and r1 players with progress of 11/12 mythic just proves how terrible this season is. I don’t think that ever happened before.

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Just from a forum reading standpoint, then everything is playing out according to history.

The current expansion is always the worst one ever.
The current season is always the worst one ever.

For as long as I have lurked on this forum, those two statements have always held true. Always.
Sometimes there’s a little discussion whether the first season was worse than the second season, or the second was worse than the third. But the sentiment generally errs toward the present being worse than the past.

Once an expansion or season is in the past, it gets regarded more favorably as time goes. Up to a point. In Cata and MoP the Arena community spoke very much in favor of WotLK season 7 & 8. Today the Arena community speaks more in favor of MoP season 15 and WoD season 18. So favor shifts. But it stays in the past.

The future is always regarded with reserved hope and optimism.
It can’t get any worse. Some things look promising. Etc…

And then the cycle repeats itself.

History is also fickle. Arena has been around for 13 years. So worst in the history of WoW is a long history – a history few players can attest to having experienced to its fullest, let alone regarded through the same means.
The statement loses some meaning when you account for the long passing of time.

Anyway, Shadowlands will come out. People will be excited for it, and fearful or what it may entail. The first few weeks of the first season will be thrilling, and then reality hits and the focus shifts toward the problems. The imbalances. The flaws. The requirements. The shortcomings.
As per usual.

:slight_smile:

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And here you are, being the Blizzard Paypiggy even though you hate the Game so much.

Speak with the Wallet, not with the Forum.

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the blizzard paypiggies are the morons that actually pay for store mounts/pets and/or waste money faction/realm/race changing 24/7

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i mean, noone could expect that something like corruptions has such an impact on the pvp season…

What a suprise…

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So its good to qq about PvP in the EU Forum, where they never cared one little bit while just keep paying your sub to keep complaining? Thats what Drae is doing and a lot times you too Tommyboy.

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its the best season so far

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I wouldn’t know, I played 1 arena game in 8.3.

Got 100-0’d by a S2 1.7 k rated DH in 1.3 seconds cus his corruption procced.

Haven’t touched the game since then, except for recently to level some alts.

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@Jito

This expansion really has taken the price though.
Usually seasons become better during the expansion. This expansion has been the opposite. PvE gear has gotten more and more influence in terms of possibility to succeed, every single patch.

Because they won’t stop experimenting with systems that heavily favor players that also do PvE, or put in annoying systems in PvP that nobody has asked for.

  • Cata had for example legendary weapons and PvE trinkets.

  • WoD had, for example, BiS PvP trinkets in Ashran as an RNG drop. Also it had the big pruning which made PvP way more boring.

  • Legion was pretty good in terms of balance when it came to gear because of scaling, but it had the big problem of not letting you affect your secondary stats at all. Some bad spec designs too, but that’s not Legion exclusive.

  • BfA though on the other hand, doubled down on what me and my PvP mates are most annoyed about: RNG.

BfA has the following problems:

  • Super high entry requirement if you want to push for any serious rating
  • Get essences (requires weeks/months for rank 3)
  • Get azerite pieces with good traits (RNG or requires PvE farming, this takes weeks/months depending on luck)
  • Get decent item level (requires PvE farming, because the drop rate in PvP is abyssmal and you get bad item level drops while climbing)
  • Get the right corruptions (requires PvP and/or PvE farming, takes months) on the right ilvl pieces with the right secondary stats, because they scale with ilvl
    I still don’t have any good corruptions and I’ve been doing both PvP and PvE for 7-8 weeks.
  • Get rank 12+ on legendary cloak (takes 3-4 weeks or something like that)
  • Get rank 15 on legendary cloak and farm N’Zoth kill + do one horrific vision each week because you need to catch-up on corruption resistance because the opponents you meet will have more corruption equipped than you and therefor deal more damage/have more survivability. Oh and hopefully you have good pieces to equip in the first place.

It’s the worst system ever created. It’s fun in PvE, but it’s the worst thing that could every possibly happen to PvP. It’s sad.
In many cases, most of the damage comes from sources that is not even your spec’s toolkit.
What kind of game is that even?

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This is the arena gameplay Everyone wants right? A season were you never actually score kills with ur abilities, just pray for good corruption procs like our tentacle friends and gushing wounds, and you are instantly a god. Even most of the games i’ve done on dh Can be summerized with over 55% of my dmg coming from other sources (corruption, weapon procs, Essences etc) i miss when setups were needed

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I wonder what your point is with this post, if not to start an actual arguement. It has absolutely 0 to do with anything that Drae mentioned in his original post.

You can look at simple statistics that proves, that arena atm. is dead.

Your post is absolutely pointless, so just stop.

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No. Whilst the expansion is on-going, the sentiment goes from bad to worse to worst.

Once the expansion is over and in the past, then the sentiment almost flips around. The final season in particular tends to be regarded in a very positive light, once it’s in the past.

As players move into the first season of the new expansion – and it subsequently fails to live up to the hope and expectations players have for it – then they tend to look back at the final season of the previous expansion and go: “It actually wasn’t so bad compared to this garbage!”

I don’t really have any ulterior motivation with my posts. My earlier post and this one are just written in-between me waiting for my slow opponents in Hearthstone to finish their turns. It passes time. :slight_smile:

As far as being a response to Drae’s original post, then the gist of my post was merely that regardless of this being the perceived worst season ever in WoW’s Arena history, then it’s nothing the game and the community hasn’t been through before. And that is some small comfort, I should think. :slight_smile:

That too is a grim declaration I have heard many times before. Yet the darn thing seems to persist regardless. Lure me if it won’t this time too.

https://imgur.com/gallery/1hhzdmb

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On the top of my head, the only expansion before BfA (not taking tbc or wotlk into account) where this is true is Cataclysm in a certain way, because of PvE stuff.

Last season in MoP was better than first season. It had many broken things like shuriken toss spam, stampede, deadly throw interrupt spam etc.
Last season in WoD was better than first season, because first season was broken. Some examples include combat rogue red buff, frost dk immortality etc etc. Althought WoD is a bad example, considering it had many faults overall.
Last season in Legion was better than first season. They nerfed PvE trinkets etc.

Most expansions made it easier to get ready for arenas throughout the expansion. BfA is the extreme opposite. It takes months (if you’re not getting boosted and are lucky with corruption pieces) before you can consider aiming for the highest rating.

In some weeks it will take even longer, because new players or players who are coming back will have to start fresh with unlocking essences and farming for months to catch up with the corruption resistance.

What kind of game design is that?
One of my friends barely wants to come back because they know what a heavy grind and RNG adventure it will be before they can even enjoy the game.
Another friend doesn’t want to play alts for PvP because that’s also a heavy grind, even with the essences being account wide.

Because Blizzard won’t stop experimenting with systems that heavily favor players that also do PvE, or put in annoying systems in PvP that nobody has asked for.

Because they pruned gameplay two expansions in a row, making the game boring and frustrating to play when it came to PvP.

Shadowlands looks to fix lots of stuff that players have been asking for, IN THE RIGHT WAY*, instead of going the opposite way.

By saying “The right way”, I mean not doing it in a way that makes it even worse.
Take for example warforged/ titanforged vs corruption gear.
Players asked for the removal of warforged/ titanforged. Blizzard “listened” and introduced corruption which is ten times worse than warforged/titanforged and plays a MUCH bigger role in terms of your ability to succeed in PvP.