3d week of 11.0.5, my spec (Markmanship Dark Ranger) is buggy & badly undertuned mess, what am I paying my subscription for?

It is a third week of 11.0.5 of this so called “celebration” patch, my spec (Marksmanship Dark Ranger) does 30-50% less damage than most other specs as a result of your incompetent tuning early in the patch.

There is a massive negative feedback across EU and US forums on this issue, logs show a massive drop of people playing Marksmanship, including spec loyal top performing players, both in PvE and PvP, and despite all of this you’re not even showing signs of attempting to fix the issue.

What do I, and other MM hunters, pay you subscription money for? For having our spec butchered amidst the season and then ignored as if nothing is happening? You could at least let us know that you’re working on the issue and that you need more time for some reason, but you have not done even that.

As far as I understand, your terms and conditions do not allow for a refund of subscription money. But neither do they stipulate that we pay monthly subscription to be your free to use beta testers, do they?

You know, I could not care less for that boring 11.0.7 patch or that MDI tournament. I would much more prefer if you spent that energy on fixing my spec as well as neglected specs like Holy Priest, Brewmaster Monk and Devastation Evoker, for example.

Appendix, list of Dark Ranger bugs (incomplete):

  1. Black Arrow from the Withering Fire does not proc A Murder of Crows.
  2. 2 additional Black Arrows from the Withering Fire do not trigger Razor Fragments.
  3. Razor Fragments only ticking for ~21% dmg when applied to multiple targets.
  4. Bleak Powder does not proc if Black Arrow kills its target.
  5. Dark Hounds procs are extremely rare ( I had like 10 procs or so during an entire m+ run of 26 minutes).
  6. Dark Ranger’s fully talented Black Arrow hits for less than Sentinel’s completely untalented kill shot (this is technically not a bug, but it is such a terrible tuning, I can’t help but mention it).
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I think it is hard to even visualise the level of problems underneath the bonnet here. But I know things are not working well with weird bugs and strange behaviour. Why did my food buff suddenly just reset from seconds left to 60 minutes last night? Sometimes I’m disengaging and it is happening 1-2 seconds later like some strange server side lag? I don’t even know where to start with the problems going on but it is endlessly frustrating.

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i’m happy i have not bought more play time. have only a couple of days left.
will take a rest and save some money.

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Heartful, thank you for carrying on to post about this. Tbh I given up at this point no one from Blizz EVER remembers the hunters sub forum is a thing, tbh your better off posting on the main forum or twitter at this point.

But we all told them there was issues with DR, they just didnt bother, the bugs you posted have been around from the bata. But still they didnt do anything, BM as the same kind of bugs with DA and Bleak Powder.

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I appreciate you being so vocal about the issue. MM since the “celebration” just feels bad to play.

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This is exactly what I did, my friend, I posted a similiar message twice in a Customer Support channel (since my post is primarily directed to Blizzard and it’s in Customer Support where Blizzard staff is supposed to reply to players directly).

They deleted my first post from Customer Support section and silenced me for 4 days. So I created a this one and as you can see, Blizzard moved forcibly my topic from Customer Support section to Hunter section ^^

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Why am i not shocked… The fact is everyone and there cat can see both MM and BM need work, 11.05 was ment to be that and in return they left us in a buggy mess only to hammer nerf BA for nothing its sad.

Sent isnt fun no matter how they work it

They made it worse, I preferred dark arrow being separate to kill shot too…it’s not like we have that many primary buttons. But this is…sad. At least MM was doing well in M+ but now it feels, meh. I’m not going to push into +12 territory with it now because it’s a bit embarrassing. Blizzard have to stop pooing the bed like this.

I know right? MM was the one spec that didn’t suffer from button bloat so why they replaced Kill Shot with Black Arrow for Dark Ranger makes no sense. I don’t find the playstyle much fun at the moment but I’m stuck with it because I HATE what BM has become: a spammy pet summoner just like Demo Warlock and Unholy DK. It’s lazy development and not at all how BM was envisioned all those many years ago as you and your BRK.

Would have made sense to reduce button bloat and to keep it as an “execute”-style ability. But now you don’t even notice if you pressed it or not, it hits like a wet noodle, easily out healed by every passive.

I also don’t get why they implement abilities like Wailing Arrow which take ages to ramp up and then barely hit for a little more than the normal aimed shot. Might as well replace aimed shot completely with it when we already waste so many talent points on this - or buff damage by 100-150% of Wailing Arrow so you really have something to work toward an ability that actually makes a dent instead of just looking slightly different than an aimed shot but damage-wise making practically 0 difference.

No talking that sometimes Black Arrow doesn’t even hit .

I did Delves Yday and with trueshoot on 4 Black Arrows casted somehow =didn’t do anything and wasn’t even possible to track . Nothing show on recount~details and not even tracked on combat records .

My 587 ench shaman hit for 3.7 mill (instant cast ) while my biggest hit aimed/b-a at 625 ilvl was 1.8 mill with TA on (crit dmg* )

I’m Ending with 1.2 mil average dmg on M+

My Dk is literally 1.5x times better despite being low ilvl .

Just waiting Season 2

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So basically, fudge Blizzard. I truly feel for you, know that you’re not alone.

The Rogue forums have been flooded for months with complaints about how unplayable the class is in PvP due to the plethora of stealth bugs (some of which are over 10 YEARS old). They completely ignore every single thread, even though 3 of the top 5 threads are about stealth issues. They don’t adress the issues at all. It’s honestly sickening how they treat the community, without which they are nothing. Literally.

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Apreciate the suport, also feel you brother i’m rogue at heart. Parked my rogue after got the elite mog which is sick, gotta give them that, but it was a painfull grind.
As long as you have ds mark or rupture on someone you cannot stealth anymore. Small indie company

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