a bit to much memes for my taste hard to watch but its astounding how they justify their choices … Why the opposite is not true, if i want to play X dont force me into y.
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Because they “choose” a spec that will be played. It is annoying but from the legion, I realize that. I wanted demonology but no one played it. When started to test it I realize that it is unplayable and literally klunky. Then read that they want to play affliction because they buffed it to the sky.
so what they want us to play in Shadowlands ? DK ? druids ? there is already a ton load of them 
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You have 3 dps specs to choose from!!! 1 or two might be bad but you got a 3rd that is good and therefor you get invited! DH has only 1 dps spec! 1!! If it sucks, we wont get an invite!! No invite, no raid/m+! and no fun!! We need the only dps spec we have to be viable! We dont have the luxury to just choose another dps spec! Try use a little brainpower before posting on the forums!!
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Here is the sad truth fellow players. Blizzard does not make big class changes during an expansion, so i wouldn’t expect us to get our Dodge back or any other ability specific change. They will just slide the +/- Dmg slider and wait for next Exp to make needed changes. Right now they give us the +5% buff because we are really underperforming. This buff is only to quiet us and hold till we get our legos and get to much higher Ilvl where the actual numbers will be in line with the other classes as the actual balance they do is only at the high Ilvls. At that point Blizz will slide the DMG slider the other way to get us back in line.
So if you are really thinking of doing high M+ and Raids, better change class now, gameplay will not change this Expansion for DH, only DMG will scale.
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I’m not going to change class i love. I’d just come back eventually. I tried changing to hunter i hated everything about it even if i made big numbers.
Think 5% will quiet down the havocs? I dont think so. Its better to stick with the class you love and raise hell until things are fixed than jump between classes and chase for big numbers.
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I invite DH’s to my mythic + because I feel bad for them lol. Also they are the one class it seems that actually bothers to use its utility like the mass stun, cage, kick, darkness etc. Feel like unholy DK’s pump but never bother using their grips, interrupts etc and I always feel like I have to prompt them to battle rez if the healer goes down.
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First thanks 
its like in real life tho, at least you know they will try their hardest to show they deserved the spot. I really cant afford to be bad lol.
There is no you. I am DH as well, but this time Blizzard finally made veng decent. So this is what I mean. Same goes for other classes:
- Aff was bad in BFA, now by coincidence is the leading spec.
- Look where the best Rog spec form BFA is now and where the least played is.
- Look where veng is now, and where havoc.
- I played priest and in BFA nobody wanted dis. Now by some miracle, this is their best spec.
This is horrible in any case.
Veng is decent only because it can kite tho, once other tanks get enough gear to face tank higher m+ veng will fall off. Also veng is not really that great in raids either.
Is it better than it used to be ? yea … Is it something to write home about ? Not really.
Vengeful is good cos it has good dmg not because its tanky. In fact its not so good in raids but amazing in m+, if nothing changes venge will still be great in m+.
If we pretend venge is bad now we are doing the same thing we accuse everyone else of doing : talk non sense, without facts, repeating heard rumors and so on.
I think we should focus on real issue havoc, and give a good example by not whining for no reason. Between the tanks venge is by no means “bad” its not the best but its decent/good overall
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Veng is not bad, it is the most used tank in high end keys, becase it can kite amazingly, but once other tanks get enough gear to face tank, we will fall off.
But it is there:
- Revert demonic to 8 sec
- Make fel barage baseline
- Return nemesis (as baseline as well)
- return dodge
thats all havoc needs. They need big cd focus dmg as nemesis. It was something other classes have as well.
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