Hello,
Dont get me wrong, I welcome every single buff, but 5 % when we are almost rock bottom ( sorry warlocks 
) would not be enough.
This was exactly what they did to feral last xpac. I was playing the spec, it was rock bottom, and over 2 months they were trying to buff it this way. It was 5%, than 7%, than another 5 %. It was not enough tho.
What do you think ?
I am happy, but afraid it wont be enough.
More evidence that this is not enough. Playing the game for 2 months like this would be appalling. This is supposed to be a full release and yet they are tentatively slightly giving us a tiny buff. This shows no confidence in decision making and constant pandering to the psychology of players instead of having the balls to make a big change that is the correct one.
They saw that DH participation numbers are in the gutter and decided to take action to save those subs. Many of us already rerolled.
They could have just read the forums and checked what majority of people were saying … buff ST dmg, first blood baseline, cycle of hatred baseline, reduce cd of meta, put back blade dance and buff defensives, give us 5% base leech, thats it. how hard would that be. But nah they just throw 5% buff when we are 25% behind UHDK, clueless af.
I’ve been following the Shadowlands beta DH forums for months. People have very clearly expressed what the issues are and what they want ( Demonic nerf reverted, First blood/demonic baseline ) and it was wholly ignored.
it’s like they tried to unprune everyone and for DHs their sticky note was " Nerf into the ground "
It is not only DH. Feral is also third expansion dead. Legion was dead, whole BFA, and now it is bottom trash as well.
I think we all shall go mage/rog since this is the only safe choice overall. Other classes are trash for Blizzard.
I am 192 ilvl, 535 rio, i get declined in a +3 mythic… im trying for 2 hrs to get accepted ,is impossible, raid, M+… is a bit late now to start from 0 with gearing and so on another class… Blizzard really doesnt care about my money spent to play,literally im forced to lose now more time making a new class from 0 or to play tank… and i dont like to play tank…5% is nothing, with legendary for aoe and 5% instead of 2.8 3k at the end of the dungeon , you will have 3.3k 3.4k maximum, IF you have 193ilvl+ … is useless and they really dont care about it… and is very very stressfull to play a class and to relly on your keys and guild runs only… because in pug no one is inviting you… darkness thing is nothing if your class doesnt help the dungeon with DPS…so rip dh…blizzard is sleeping at the moment unfortunatelly…i love this game, playing it since vanilla and never felt so lost like now
thats not true, i went to check because i hate when people spread missinformation.
so in BFA feral was pretty average never bottom, and in legion it had its glorious moments
trial of valor top
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/12
nighthold above average
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/11
tomb above average
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/13
antorus one of the top
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/17
NATHRIA 2 druid dps specs on TOP !
https://i.imgur.com/81RIJmL.png
So please dont compare yourself to us, and you are talking about a spec, we are talking about the class, we dont have alternative dps spec like druids do. And please check again nathria logs you are on top and you want sympathy ?
Same here 190 armory didnt update i get declined for +5.
I can do the same damage people do when they need to clear 8 9 levels.
I have also a whole bunch of utility (stuns darkness) and the magic debuff, they dont care. I accepted my fate of not doing raids, but at least i went for mythics build, does not help.
What ? Druid is always pefrorming well, feral had its weak moments in Legion, sure, but it was always at least average and now it is pretty strong, Bala on the other hand (YOUR OTHER SPEC, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE) is usually in top 5.
I played with feral yesterday and the damage he did was insane. 100k hits with some skills. I dont think we have any skill that can do that much damage.
In legion, Demo warlock was literally dead. According to statistics (I checked them long time ago) was top in some raids. Anyway, feral can do DPS, demo as well but they are clunky. Look at their popularity as a spec, as a DH you experience declines now and cry about it. Feral and demo got declined whole two expansions. Go to druid forum and read, then call misinformation. I hate when people rely on numbers without checking popularity and really if those numbers maps the reality.
It is not mine. I was DH main as well. Just saying that because feral suffered a lot. It got declined in legion everywhere, in BFA I remember whole expansion that nobody wants ferals.
Balance is another story. Blizzard really like this spec and always keep it in the top form. In Jaina at some point balance druids were topping the meters.
The problem with Havoc was how it was perceived. For example, I never heard anyone to complain the BM top dps. But even in my guild when I topped mythic dog there was:
Blizzard should nerf this simple spec to the ground, the whole DPS comes from haste and IS. And the other one: it should be a meme spec. But most of the time when they complained about it they do not realized that mages, warlocks and druids really got the shot for most battles.
I faced comments even when I was in top 5. The perception for DH was somehow wrong as a top S tier all the time, but it was upper tier A +/- but never top.
ok you switched to warlocks so i wont even go in there, but about the dh it wasnt even a+.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTOJK8LF10QRPMPeJQH4Y48yf_R3kJtdPEbMmTBcUiLsr1YeB_fsrwMMBwzrwFFO1echkccjxINmi9k/pubhtml#
it was average as spec overall, and very bad as class in general. In pvp even worse, but people dont care cos they died in open world once.
I have told you. It was how they perceive it man. Even popular streamers said: DH has everything. I just wrote about our dodge. I cheated the mechanics in TD 15+ but when I fail to time it I die. DH required some skill. Whatever, lets agree on one simple thing: until they do not start to test their own specs, we wont have any good balance.
And yes, I switched to lock because I play as main DH/Lock. Both are fart right now and I can talk forever but with no meaning.
By the way, it is not about the DH it is about the mindset, you can see it here:
It says everything about how they balance.
This is amazing And the jab at Noxxic made my day
Thats just sad… Also i agree on you that its funny that people whined in bfa if i did well in mythic few times but nothing was ever said about BMs…the most simplest beginner class there is even behind us which was topping dps in raids and in m+ but noone said anything. Noone ever says anything about mages or warlocks which are always on top dps charts, rarely see any comments about rogues unless in pvp, but DH does well and the world will be set in flames.
When i played my BM my fingers were resting i drank coffee and surfed my phone while pets tanked for me (if solo) and did well in stuff. When i play my DH my fingers are screaming in agony and my wrist is in pain.
The funny thing is havoc DH has the highest APM (actions per minute) of all specs if you play certain builds, which is very difficult for some people to do, but people still say DH is the easiest class outhtere.
It’s lazy. We need buffs to our single target dmg. Buff Demon’s bite and chaos strike.
Demonic baseline and buffed to 8 sec, buff chaos strike, first blood and cycle of hatred baseline would help a lot imo, the class would feel much better to play.
Or someone said give DHs the same passive Illidan has in HOTS - Your auto attacks decrease your cds, the rotation would feel much more fluid with at least some of those things imo.
Also make everything into chaos dmg god please, our mastery is so worthless with half of our dmg being fire, some of it being physical and like 2 spells being chaos, mastery is absolutely a dead stat.