Hi,
Am i really forced to play at 60 Fps with this beast of a machine? What is going on here, is there really no solution to this?
It’s not even a stable 60, it’s stuterring as hell seriously, like flying in dornogal, it’s stutters fiesta from 130 to 90 to 150 to 80 fps and it’s getting old.
This raid seems insane for frame rate, i never got these problems in DF. Especially the second boss and the area before it drops me to 20-30 fps.
I’m on 5700x3d, no graphical setting changes really fixes these insane random drops.
You must have started later in DF when weakauras and addons were more optimized and because of patches.
The FPS drops on the bigger trash packs in Vault were insane at launch 
Only done LFR so far but FPS were pretty low compared to end of DF raids.
5800X3D here btw.
Yeah unless you are GPU limited when some particle effects drop your FPS, there is nothing you can do about a CPU-limit.
You have a semi-old processor considering Intel launches 15th gen shortly.
Video card doesn’t really matter in WoW, you could have same FPS with a 4070 TI for example.
What matters for WOW, is a very fast processor, preferably with 3D vCache tech, something like a 7800X3D which is far superior for gaming versus I9 13900K.
My Spec is
AMD Ryzen™ 5 7535HS
RTX 4050
DDR5 Ram 4800 16GB
m2SSD 1TB
I play most of the Games at Medium to High settings, but Warcraft i run every single setting on LOW very low, on open World i have 130 more fps, Dungeons M+ like 50 fps but Raid is so bad like 20 Fps.
I hope one day Blizzard will understand that we need this game to have better performance, more fps, less lag, less DC, not to high ping ( ms ) at least i dont care about
Graphics and that everything needs to be so beautiful and wonderful and put every settings on Ultra and Ray Tracing i just want to play M+,Raids on some stable fps at least 60fps. Every single expan we are getting more sistem more graphics, more bloat, we just simple need more performance more then anything so we can play, it is not funny when you are in Raid and you need to go somewhere to do boss mechanics and in one moment you have Lag and second moment you are dead. This is online live game, can you for the love of God try some maintenance for fixing all of this, not only for new patch or bug or spell. But i feel like no one cares so it will be probably better if i didnt write but one can only HOPE.
You’re insane for calling I9 13 900K an old CPU. I’m playing any recent games on ultra with no problem (yes with DLSS). You’re right about the AMD having a 3D cache but i’m not the only intel user out there either
You get PC gamers who think they need to upgrade their GPU/CPU everytime a new one comes out like it’s a brand new console or something.
They tend to run around telling everyone with a decent system it’s “old” because it justifies their expensive purchase. Not saying that person did that 100% but that’s what I find most of the time.
My main gaming PC is still running a core i7-8700k.
That IS old, but it still runs the games I want to play, at a frame rate I consider acceptable, and I don’t need graphics on 10’s all the way across to board to be able to enjoy the game.
I really don’t understand those who, as you say, upgrade their PC everytime a new cpu/gpu comes out.
I7 are better for WoW then any I9 on the market. I’m not saying i want to run the game on max, actually i’m running it on the low tier side of things. It’s just that when you have 140 fps and 50 the second the fight begin is not acceptable. I’m loking at my FPS constantly because i can’t stand FPS drops, it stuters, it annoy me. Seing a druid buffing the raid and looking at my FPS droping 30 frame is not normal.
Blizzard should update their code, it’s the same engine as classic, it’s a 15 years old engine boosted by maxing polygons, it runs on a few core and it can’t handle multi thread CPU YET i’m seing streamer with I9 that seems to run their game without the FPS drops i’m wondering how.
With or without add on, take your mount and dash full speed in dornogal, passing the bank and the HV and if you tell me you don’t suffer any drops in FPS, including micro stutter you’re lucky i don’t know what to say, it’s not the point here because we are a lot having these problems.
I’m glad I stuck to 1080p gaming tbh. I’m not used to seeing 4k gaming so I don’t feel like I’m missing anything. I bet when you go backwards it’s horrible though.
I don’t get the stutters in that area you speak of in 1080p (max settings in that resolution and ray tracing off) but guess you would be the same in they settings as your system blows mine out of the water.
Everybody should mention that in their post, because what you may consider acceptable might not be what i consider that.
For example at the end of Shadowlands i got tired raiding mythic progress with drops to 30 and even 15 FPS at the lowest (S4 with the mote spawn and aoeing them down) on my Ryzen 3900X which is basically the same IPC as your older I7.
So i upgraded to a 5800X3D at DF-prepatch launch and never looked back, doubled my FPS easily, best upgrade ever 
Still the game runs pretty poorly overall compared to newer multithreaded engines, i guess we are stuck forever with this singlethreaded bottleneck in WoW.
I’m running at max except for draw distance and environmental detail at 8 and RT shadows of (on a 4090 that is).
The CPU cost of those settings is just to high and the GPU does nothing for it.
People tend to forget that before a pull there is literally nothing happening and almost nothing to be calculated via the combatlog and addons.
At pull everything instantly gets triggered, all the proccs, spells and interactions, add to that on top some bloodlust.
To better understand what’s happening CPU wise, take a look at your combatlog, now multiply that by the amount of players and NPCs, then take all the addon interactions and weakauras into account.
All this has to run on a single CPU thread in realtime.
Maybe now you can understand why the performance is so bad in mass player encounters.
Streams are only 60 FPS on twitch and YT.
High-end CPUs can handle that in a raid most of the time.
You won’t see the drops from 100+ FPS to 70ish or less in a stream.
Though many world first raiders have insane drops (they have FPS displayed ingame), to the 20s even with all their crazy weakauras on top of the already bad raid performance.
It was actually really smooth on beta couple weeks before launch when i got a beta invite via mail.
Guess why… because there were almost no players in Dornogal at the time
Now on live it’s a sh…fest when everyone is logged on.
I think this is mostly because of phasing stuttering as i like to call it and on top the players loading in.
You can clearly tell that it stutters and even drops hard (to like 40ish FPS at worst so far, from 138 my cap) when flying really fast over certain areas in the hub.
This is repeatable but the first time is the worst (caching the players).
Same as in Valdrakken at the AH, when you fly outside of it, no problems and “normal” FPS.
As soon as you hit the treshold where it phases you and the players become visible there is a huge stutter and then the FPS drop relative to the amount of players.
This is just engine and coding related and also server latency on top i guess.
Even on a 7800X3D with fast DDR5 RAM and a Gen4 m.2 it s very noticeable.
Nothing we can do and probably not much for Blizz to do either with this engine.
Yes you do and it has nothing to do with the resolution because its CPU/Server related.
I mean sure, if you play on a dead server or late at night/early hours when there are like 5 players in the hub, then yes you won’t get those huge stutters.
No, I don’t.
I get them in the raid. I don’t get any stutter in the city at all. I mean what do you think you are? lol. “Yes you do” emm no?
Have you played on my system with my set up? I legit don’t get a single stutter or frame drops in the area you speak of.
yeah because playing on 4k doesn’t make the cpu work harder. This statement from you explains your attitude.
It just shows that you have no understanding of what the CPU does and what not.
I suggest you watch a video or read an article where “CPU-Limit” is explained.
So you don’t get stutters when flying over Dornogal and the AH?
As I said. No.
Only place I’ve got stutters is in the raid. I had stutters at launch due to certain addons but I’ve fixed them.
The new city actually runs way better for me than Valdrakken does.
I noticed also that sometimes, depending on the weeks or the update or the alignement of the stars, you can have some performance boost in raid for example, i’m thinking of dragonflight when i had 60 and the next week 100, then back to 60 with no reason. And i don’t think it’s from the add ons really.
First, you need to write the full configuration of the computer. and not only the processor and memory, there are a lot of other places that can slow down the game.
And secondly, the i7-9 of the latest generations have problems in many games, the computer community has discussed this more than once!
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