So what’s this then. You’re level 60-69 bracket and you’re trying to queue for a random battleground. But you get almost exclusively matched against people who are level 70 with full pvp gear, just because they are grouped with a leveling friend.
It is absolutely ridiculous, to see a full PvP geared level 70 with full versatility gear and 180k HP in a leveling battleground where some classes don’t even receive versatility gear, cannot equip PvP gear and are level 61’s who have around 90k health vs somebody who oneshots them.
What’s even the point? Have a pre-made battleground and play with friends all you want at max level when everybody has access to the same kind of gear. But don’t have that work in leveling battlegrounds.
The argument that we all get scaled down to 69 so it’s fine is invalid. A level 70 scaled down to 69 still maintains a lot of their stats to the point they can potentially oneshot people even with over 100k hp.
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They could probably adjust the scaling a bit. But not everyone you see with much hp is a 70. You’ll be equally or more powerful as a lowbie with bis shadowlands gear. The problem is the massive gear gap that occurs when you have fresh characters leveling through, and the ones that played a lot on 60 in SL. A scaled 70 will - in my experience - be slightly less powerful than someone with full SL gear.
A better solution than nerfing scaled 70s would be to buff the scaling for the lower end of the bracket spectrum, so that everyone played with minimum 290 ilvl quality gear.
However if you’re referring to 60 bgs (seeing as you’re posting on a 60 char), this is a separate bracket, and if you join there as a 70 you’ll get scaled to 170 ilvl or something like that, making you completely worthless. In other words: the ones you see oneshotting ppl here are simply good geared shadowlands characters.
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I’m refering to 61-69 bracket. But the scaling is busted. I am in a match just now where a team of Alliance is farming my Horde team for kills in a capture the flag gamemode. And all of their rogues (4 of them) have 200k hp, then there’s a dracthyr healer with 211k hp and the rest of them also have around 200k hp.
Our team? Our team has around 100-150k hp, not more then that.
Scaling is broken. Blizzard should fix it. Not too long ago in a dungeon, level 10 monk brewmaster with locked xp, full gemmed and enchanted gear, oneshot WoD dungeon bosses while tanking. That should tell you enough. Lol.
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I know that dungeon leveling scaling is messed up. As for bgs, my point was that yes, a scaled 70 will be much more powerful than a 61 with questing gear. But rather than nerfing scaled 70s, Id much rather have them buff the scaling for the 61s in quest greens. Characters that got bis gear at the end of shadowlands are still more powerful than scaled 70s, so it would imo be better to simply put everyone on an even footing.
I don’t care if they nerf the 70’s or buff the 61’s. All I care about that it’s a bit more fair and equal, specially when you consider that leveling battleground for 61-69 is for those leveling brackets and now it’s getting abused to pieces by level 70’s with party sync.
But I don’t think Blizzard will care. It’s a leveling bracket. They have cared less and less about leveling, by making it shorter and shorter. And put more emphasis on end game lately.
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Huge tip here. Get yourself the PvP trinket bonus if you’re leveling in BGs. It’s 800g from Oribos PvP vendor.
It’ll boost your HP and damage up massively.
Also when you party sync at level 70, a lot of things gets completely disabled, and in a lot of circumstances players who’re level 69 and in decent dungeon gear will do more damage and have more HP than a party synced level 70.
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still doesnt matter scaling level for bgs need stopping 70s still do way more damage because the gear is scaled too high only saddos do this really for a unfair adavantage
I’m sorry but you’re incorrect. You can do more damage at 69 than you can as a level 70 synced DPS. Gear gets scaled down at 70 to lower than the ilevel accessible by a level 69.
And getting the trinket set bonus does matter, because it translates into the best part of an extra 45k HP and 20% extra DPS.
You are incorrect.
I played both and I can safely say a lvl 70 does way more damage than a well good geared lvl 61-69 character.
The only thing a good geared lvl’ing char has is hp.
I’m sorry but you’re incorrect. I’ve leveled from 61-70 in random BGs on 3 of my characters playing with friends who’re level 70 and synced and in almost full this season conquest gear.
And I’m doing a lot more damage than them, and my effective ilevel is higher while leveling in BGs because it doesn’t get scaled down, thus I do more damage.
Also you can pick up epic level 70 gear that you can equip at level 61-69 because it doesn’t have a level requirement.
it’s sad bad players do it to feel special especially ele shamans who literally just 1 bang everyone
I don’t do it to feel special. I do it because I love winning, and AoEing down an entire BG of players like they’re low level mobs gets those dopamine receptors poppin’ 
I concur that level 70 in 61-69 bracket works fine. The gear is a level 69 template, it’s not level 70 gear at all despite what is equipped. The green gear that drops from bgs wins is prb better, tho I have not tested that theory. The 70 players high up in dmg in 61-69, are prb also high up in lvl 70 bgs.
It’s the brackets were fixed level free trial or un-upgraded characters can join that are the problem imo. Those brackets are just pointless and skippable when leveling in bgs, the only time I do PvE is those brackets. Solution is to simply put those fixed xp players into the dedicated fixed xp bgs that already exist.
It’s scaled to lvl 69 gear only lvl 69s decked out have a chance… the easy fix would be to scale everyone’s gear to 69 gear or scaled 70s to lvl 64 gear see how many 70s would play without their unfair advantage. Oh wait they’d just go to another lvl bracket if it didn’t get changed there too they’re simply not good enough if they don’t have a unfair advantage
Well the lower level players are also scaled up to level 69 aren’t they? I was when levelling to 70 in bgs. The free (on win) green bg gear, which sometimes became blue gear, was fine in 61 to 69 bgs.
Ah well, the free green gear is fine.
This is so enraging!!! Hope they do something. Every time meet a large group of 250k +/- HP that just blasts the whole team and camps everyone at the graveyard to the point we can’t even spawn as everyone just dies with no counterplay.
Alt-friendly expansion… 
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I’ve got warlocks in some battlegrounds with 500k hp. You saying they are level 69?
FYI my lvl66 Ret has almost 180k in BG
SL pvp trinkets help alot as they form the set bonus as well
Also try to collect the titan xxxxxxxxx I and place crafting order for juicy ilvl and HP
never seen stuff this extreme, probably abusing wPVP buffs
Ive heard similar stuff but on hPal instakilling people in solo shuffle