[9.0] Demon Hunter Havoc Serious Talent REVAMP

Hello Masters of warglaives,

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I will introduce to you the complete rework of Demon Hunter (not official).

Summary :

I truly think that Demon hunter class is near to be garbage. When you play it, you immediatly know that this class has been done in a big hurry (maybe deadline of Legion?). the fact is that DH is one of the few spec that are very superficial. There is, praticly, no work behind it. This class has almost no passive and have all of they skill (excepte Chaos Strike) can do single target and multiple target damage. What is the design behind it?? Playing while sleeping!!!
There is no challenge, no difficulty, no depth. Some melee class have to work hard just to chase after their enemy and this “class” can “fly” where they want, with 10 sec cd… Tell me this is a joke !!

To take this class seriously, they a lot of change to make.

Let’s check the baseline skill.

Take a look at the talent picture here : https://ibb.co/k3RFtKd

Baseline Demon Hunter Change

Fel Rush

Instant / 10 sec recharge / 1 Charges
Rush forward, incinerating anything in your path for (20% of Attack power) Chaos damage.

Throw Glaive

30 yd range / Instant / 10 sec recharge / 1 Charges
Throw a demonic glaive at the target, dealing (25% of Attack power) Physical damage. The glaive can ricochet to 2 additional enemies within 10 yards snaring them by 50% for 6 sec.

Chaos Nova

Free / Instant cast / 1 min cooldown
Unleash an eruption of fel energy, stunning all nearby enemies for 2 sec. Each enemy stunned by Chaos Nova has a 50% chance to generate a Lesser Soul Fragment.

Darkness

Instant / 3 min cooldown
Summons darkness around you in an 8 yd radius, granting friendly targets a 50% chance to avoid all damage from an attack. Lasts 8 sec.

Feast on the Souls

When you consume a Soul Fragment, the remaining cooldown on Eye Beam and Chaos Nova is reduced by 5 sec.

Deceiver’s Fury

You generate 5 Fury each time you dodge an attack or spell.

Feast on the Souls

Increases your Fury generation by 10% and attack speed by 10% when there are no allies within 15 yards.

Shattered Souls

Killing an enemy sometimes creates a Soul Fragment that is consumed when you approach it, healing you for 10% of maximum health. If the Soul Fragment came from a Demon, you will deal 20% increased damage for 15 sec.

**Explicative Note: Demon Hunter need some attention because there is something to work on it. There is too many regen fury baseline now. So i prefere to give them some passive around regen and nerf the regen fury for somes skills.
Fel Rush is a stupid skill. Mobility must be nerf in this game. A lot of class are like “Flash”. Stop this. Demon hunter is like enhancement shaman or monk or feral…
They should have somes mobility so i prefere to nerf Fel Rush by removing 1 charge and put a snare baseline in Throw Glaive.
Chaos Nova should be FREE. Its already a 1 min cooldown.
When you will read talent, you will know what the others change.

This version of DH is a lot more fun and less brainless.

It’s important to know the fact that Demon Hunter has now baseline:

  • 2 CC skill (Chaos Nova, Imprison).
  • 2 Mobility skill (Fel Rush and Vengeful Retreat).
  • 2 Defensive cd (Blur and Darkness).
  • 1 Burst cd (Metamorphosis).

With this Demon hunter (and the other classe) has 4 distintive playstyle and more if you combine talents. Here they are:

  • 1 column: Playstyle Based on Bleed and Blade Dance.
  • 2 column: Playstyle Based on Chaos Strike.
  • 3 column: Playstyle Based on Eyes Beam.
  • 4 column: Playstyle Based on New rotation with differents cd and buffs.

Now we can move to talent (8 tiers). READ carefully because a lot of talent has changed.

Tier 1: Ressource Management

Insatiable Hunger

Demon’s Bite generates to 10 additional Fury.

Demonic Appetite

Increases maximum Fury by 30. Chaos Strike has a 15% chance to spawn a Lesser Soul Fragment, and consuming any Soul Fragment grants 30 Fury.

Wide Eyes

Reduces the cost of Eye Beam by 10 Fury.

Demon Blades

Replaces Demon’s Bite
Your auto attacks have a 60% chance to deal additional Shadow damage and generate Fury.

Tier 2: Base Skills Rotation

Trail of Ruin

The final slash of Blade Dance inflicts an additional (60% of Attack power) Chaos damage over 4 sec.

Dark Slash

Melee Range / Instant / 20 sec cooldown
Slash an enemy for (55% of Attack power) Physical damage, and increase the damage your Chaos Strike deals to them by 15% for 8 sec.

Blind Fury

Eye Beam generates 5 Fury every sec. and its duration is increased by 50%.

Felblade

15 yd range / Instant / 15 sec cooldown
Charge to your target and deal (50% of Attack power)% Fire damage. Generates 15 Fury.

Tier 3: Basic Gameplay

First Blood

Reduces the Fury cost of Blade Dance by 5 and increases its damage to 30% against the first target struck.

Chaos Burn

Chaos Strike has now 60% chance to refund 20 Fury.

Pinning Glare

Eyes Beam ‘s range is increased by 5 yards.

Momentum

Fel Rush increases your damage done by 10% for 8 sec.

Tier 4: Defense

Desperate Instincts

Blur now reduces damage taken by an additional 15%. Additionally, you automatically trigger Blur when you fall below 35% health. This effect can only occur when Blur is not on cooldown.

Netherwalk

Instant / 2 min cooldown
Slip into the nether, increasing movement speed by 50% and becoming immune to damage, but unable to attack. Lasts 5 sec.

Glimpse

You automatically gain Blur for 3 sec after you use Vengeful Retreat. Taking magical damage causes you to gain Fury with larger attacks granting more Fury.

Soul Rending

Leech increased by 10%. Gain an additional 15% Leech while Metamorphosis is active.

Tier 5: Mobility

Master of the Glaive

Throw Glaive has 2 charges.

Demon Speed

Blur now grants a 30% movement speed bonus.

Fel Mastery

Increases the distance of Fel Rush by 10 yards.

Fel Eruption

10 Fury / 20 yd range / Instant cast / 30 sec cooldown
Impales the target for (45% of Attack power) Chaos damage and root them for 6 sec.

Tier 6: Area of Effect (AOE)

Balanced Blades

Increases damage dealt by Blade Dance by 3% for each target within 8 yards.

Immolation Aura

Instant / 30 sec cooldown
Engulf yourself in flames, instantly causing (25% of Attack power) Fire damage to enemies within 8 yards and radiating (10% of Attack power) Fire damage every sec. Lasts 10 sec. Generates 30 Fury over 5 sec.

Fury of the Illidari

40 yd range / Instant / 1 min cooldown
Throws your weapon in a whirlwind of energy, causing (7 * (38% + 38%)) Chaos damage over 3 sec to all nearby enemies.

Fel Barrage

Channeled (3 sec cast) / 1 min cooldown
Unleash a torrent of Fel energy over 3 sec, inflicting [(13) * (22% of Attack power)] Chaos damage to all enemies within 8 yds.

Tier 7: Refine playstyle

Bloodlet

Throw Glaive causes the target hit to bleed for 100% of the damage inflicted over 10 sec.

Chaotic Onslaught

Chaos Strike has a 20% chance to slash an additional time.

Anguish of the Deceiver

Each time Eye Beam deals damage to a target, it also applies Anguish. When Anguish expires, it deals (8% of Attack power) Chaos damage to the victim per application.

Demonic Origins

The cooldown of Metamorphosis is reduced by 2 min, but now lasts 15 sec.

Tier 8: Burst

Nemesis

50 yd range / Instant / 2 min cooldown
Increases damage you inflict against the target by 15% for 30 sec. When the target is slain, you will inflict 15% additional damage against all creature types matching the original target (Humanoid, Dragonkin, etc.) for the remaining duration.

Inner Demons

Chaos Strike has a 20% chance to unleash your inner demon, causing it to crash into your target and deal (135% of Attack power) Chaos damage to all nearby enemies.

Demonic

Eye Beam causes you to enter demon form for 8 sec after it finishes dealing damage.

Chaos Blades

Instant / 2 min cooldown
Increases all damage done by 30% for 15 sec. While active, your auto attack deals 150% increased damage, and causes Chaos damage.

I repeate that none of this is official. It’s just my personnal point of view of the spec but i truly think that a lot of classes need this particular attention.
Thanks for reading me.

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Skimmed your post, decided to stop after seeing this.

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This is just a ‘nerf DH’ post in disguise.

DH is a hugely popular and very fun class. I’d say they got the design just about right.

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