[9.0] Windwalker Monk Serious Talent REVAMP

Hello Childrens of Bruce Lee,

You will see all others class talent revamp here : https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/90-ideas-for-complete-talent-revamp-for-all-class/122538

I will introduce to you the complete rework of Windwalker Monk (not official).

Summary :

WW monks are truly a strong spec. The fighting style suit them and the work behind this class over the previous expansions is quite remarkable. But somes change must be made. Like the Feral or others specs, they have been given a lot of passives that make them really strong before you have to choose the first talent. And it’s not acceptable.

Let’s check the baseline skill.

Take a look at the talent picture here : https://ibb.co/0D1Xrhz

Baseline WW Monk Change

Leg Sweep

Instant / 1 min cooldown
Knocks down all enemies within 5 yards, stunning them for 3 sec.

Blackout Kick

2 Chi / Melee Range / Instant cast / 3 sec cooldown
Kick with a blast of Chi energy, dealing x% Physical damage.

Rising Sun Kick

…Rising Sun Kick doesn’t apply Mortal Wound.

Disable

15 Energy / 0.7% of base mana / Melee Range / Instant
Reduces the target’s movement speed by 50% for 15 sec, duration refreshed by your melee attacks. Doesn’t root when apply on snared target.

Storm, Earth, and Fire : TALENT

Storm, Earth, and Fire has 2 charges.

Combat Conditioning : TALENT

Transcendence : Removed from WW Spec

**Explicative Note: With this WW monk doesn’t have a root cc (if not talented). Leg Sweep baseline and Transcendence be removed from the spec. it’s should be exclusivly reserved to MW.

Last, there should none hybrid spec that can apply Mortal Wound. There should be 2 version of this debuff: -25% heal and -35% heal.
There is 8 specs that should have Mortal Wound -25% and 3 of them can have -35% :

  • 3 specs Rogues : Only Assassination should have -35%.
  • 3 specs Hunter : Only Marksmanship should have -35%.
  • 2 Specs Warrior : Only Arms should have -35%.

It’s important to know the fact that WW Monk has now baseline:

  • 2 CC skill ( Paralysis and Leg Sweep).
  • 2 Mobility skill ( Roll and Flying Serpent Kick).
  • 1 Defensive cd (Touch of Karma).
  • 2 Burst cd (Touch of Death and Storm, Earth, and Fire).

With this WW Monk (and the other classe) has 4 distintive playstyle and more if you combine talents. Here they are:

  • 1 column: TraditionnalPlaystyle .
  • 2 column: Playstyle Based on dot and magical damage.
  • 3 column: Playstyle Based on Combo Strike.
  • 4 column: Playstyle Based on New rotation with differents cd and buffs.

Now we can move to talent (8 tiers). READ carefully because a lot of talent has changed.

Tier 1: Ressource Management

Ascension

Increases your maximum Chi by 1, maximum Energy by 20, and your Energy regeneration by 10%.

Imrove Combo Breaker

Combo Breaker has now 15% chance to trigger.

Dark Skies

Blackout Kick costs 1 fewer Chi.

Energizing Elixir

Instant / 1 min cooldown
Chug an Energizing Elixir, granting 4 Chi and generating 75 Energy over 5 sec.

Tier 2: Base Skills Rotation

Alpha Tiger

Attacking with Tiger Palm fills you with the spirit of Xuen, granting you 15% critical strike chance for 10 sec. This effect cannot occur more than once every 30 sec.

Combat Conditioning

Your Blackout Kick now also deals an additional 30% damage over 6 sec.

Hit Combo

Each successive attack that triggers Combo Strikes in a row grants 1% increased damage, stacking up to 10 times.

Fist of the White Tiger

40 Energy / Melee Range / Instant / 30 sec cooldown
Strike with the technique of the White Tiger, dealing [(80% of Attack power) + (80% of Attack power)] Physical damage. Generates 3 Chi.

Tier 3: Basic Gameplay

Tornado Kicks

Rising Sun Kick strikes a second time for 25% additional damage.

Eye of the Tiger

Tiger Palm also applies Eye of the Tiger, dealing (30% of Attack power) Nature damage to the enemy and (25% of Attack power) healing to the Monk over 8 sec.

Transfer the Power

Blackout Kick and Rising Sun Kick increase damage dealt by your next Fists of Fury by 2%, stacking up to 10 times.

Chi Wave

40 yd range / Instant / 15 sec cooldown
A wave of Chi energy flows through friends and foes, dealing (15% of Attack power) Nature damage or (30% of Attack power) healing. Bounces up to 7 times to targets within 25 yards.

Tier 4: Defense

Inner Strength

Each Chi you spend reduces damage taken by 2% for 8 sec, stacking up to 5 times.

Diffuse Magic

Instant / 1.5 min cooldown
Reduces magic damage you take by 75% for 5 sec, and transfers all currently active harmful magical effects on you back to their original caster if possible.

Good Karma

100% of the damage redirected by Touch of Karma also heals you.

Fortifying Brew

Instant / 2 min cooldown
Turns your skin to stone, increasing your current and maximum health by 20%, and reducing damage taken by 20% for 15 sec.

Tier 5: Mobility

Disabling Reach

Disable now has a 10 yard range and can root target that are already snared for 6 sec.

Celerity

Reduces the cooldown of Roll by 5 sec, increase the distance by 5 yards and its maximum number of charges by 1.

Dragon Style

Flying Dragon Kick can now be steered.

Tiger’s Lust

20 yd range / Instant / 1 min cooldown
Increases a friendly target’s movement speed by 70% for 6 sec and removes all roots and snares.

Tier 6: Area of Effect (AOE)

Cyclone Strikes

Spinning Crane Kick’s damage is increased by 10% for each unique target you’ve struck in the last 15 sec with Tiger Palm, Blackout Kick, or Rising Sun Kick

Rushing Jade Win

1 Chi / Instant cast / 6 sec cooldown
Summons a whirling tornado around you, causing [(9) * (10% of Attack power)] damage over 6 sec to enemies within 8 yards.

Turbo Fists

Fists of Fury now deals full damage to all targets hit, reduces all targets movement speed by 30%, and you Parry all attacks while channelling Fists of Fury.

Chi Burst

40 yd range / 1 sec cast / 30 sec cooldown
Hurls a torrent of Chi energy up to 40 yds forward, dealing (75% of Attack power) Nature damage to all enemies. Chi Burst generates 1 Chi per enemy target damaged, up to a maximum of 3.

Tier 7: Refine playstyle

Crosswinds

During Fists of Fury, Wind Spirit images of you attack your Fists of Fury targets for a total of (8 * (50% of Attack power)) additional Physical damage.

Pressure Points

Increases damage done by Touch of Death by 10% of all damage you dealt to the target during the duration and its cooldown is instantly reset when targets die from Touch of Death’s damage or with Touch of Death active.

Whirling Dragon Punch

Instant / 25 sec cooldown
Performs a devastating whirling upward strike, dealing [3 * (85% of Attack power)] damage to all nearby enemies. Only usable while both Fists of Fury and Rising Sun Kick are on cooldown.

Invoke Xuen, the White Tiger

40 yd range / Instant / 2 min cooldown
Summons an effigy of Xuen, the White Tiger for 20 sec. Xuen attacks your primary target, and strikes 3 enemies within 10 yards every 1 sec with Tiger Lightning for (25% of Attack power) Nature damage.

Tier 8: Burst

Spiritual Focus

Storm, Earth, and Fire has 2 charges and every 2 Chi you spend reduces the cooldown of Storm, Earth, and Fire by 1 sec.

Tigereye Brew

Instant / 1 sec cooldown
Consumes up to 10 stacks of Tigereye Brew to empower your Physical abilities with wind for 3 sec per stack consumed. Damage of your strikes by pass armor. For each 3 Chi you consume, you gain a stack of Tigereye Brew.

Serenity

Instant / 1.5 min cooldown
Enter an elevated state of mental and physical serenity for 12 sec. While in this state, you deal 20% increased damage and healing, and all Chi consumers are free and cool down 100% more quickly.

Strike of the Windlord

2 Chi / 9 yd range / Instant cast / 1 min cooldown
Strike with both Fists of the Heavens at all enemies in front of you, dealing (125% + 125%) damage and reducing movement speed by 50% for 6 sec.

I repeate that none of this is official. It’s just my personnal point of view of the spec but i truly think that a lot of classes need this particular attention.
Thanks for reading me.

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I’d invite you to have a rethink.

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This can only come from someone who has never ever played WW in PvP.

We don’t need less stuff, we need more! Just compare the stuff that have been removed over the years. What essentially did rogue or mage dropped or has significantly changed (in terms of cd) and now compare that with WW.

If they make it like you decide, noone will continue to play ww. Not only because it’s most likely not viable any longer, but also deffo no fun to play!!! Therefor I can’t support this idiotic class design, sorry.

P.S.: When WW was implemented into the game, WoW was still great. Shouldn’t the design maybe be like it was back then? Wouldn’t it be the easiest way to make WoW great again? Fun class designs?!?!?!

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Blackout Strike requiring 2 chi will kill the flow of ww monk by either having to use tigers palm twice, having to use a talented chi generator or using a filler like CJL or Chi Wave talent to cast FoF. Casting tigers palm twice would kill Hit Combo talent.

I guess some of the talents sounds nice like Tier 6 row 3(sounds like a mandatory talent though) and Tier 8 row 2.

But I dont understand why you want to remove spells that we already have, in order for us to talent into what we used to have.
Also removing Transcendence makes no sense.
I want more, not less.

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I’m sorry man, i did watch your posts but i have to disagree on many things, because so far what you proposed takes something out of the spec to make it a talent which was unnecessary, this is not improving.

This is taking the cherry of of the cake and then giving it at you as a premium, or nothing at all.

Just forget the 4th talent.

What they should have done was to make artifacts baseline, if they didn’t wanna keep it, they took possibly the worst route possible, leggos could have easily became new talents, and they could have done a few new abilities to fill up 2 talent rows that we are missing at the moment.

And this is not just on ww monk, but basically every spec revamp you did.

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