9.1 broker in-game books, Ta'zavesh

As people get through the PTR content, some new bits of info were uncovered, in case any people are interested:

So far the bit about Bastion made me think that this will overlap with the content of the upcoming Grimoire of the Shadowlands and Beyond.

The story follow the usual patter of telling instead of showing things. But I guess there is enough criticizm of the story as is, so, all I’ll say is, maybe people will find a few bits of something they could consider good / interesting. The consolation prize I suppose.


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I do find it promising that they essentially seem to be oppening up the “six powers” thing a bit. I just skimmed a bit, but it read like the big 6 were just the most important/stable ones and that there is plenty of mixing and matching and magical mongrel realms springing up everywhere. Since they really failed at hinting at an interesting hard magic system, everything that makes it softer and more mystical is welcome to me. It opens up possibilities instead of just going through the 6 realms and raising the power level afterward again.

Though with the natures of the different magics being so muddled like they are today, with each one pretty much having any power, it might just come down do magic in more colours, I guess…

Apart from that… it’s kind of funny how they are using the First Ones essentially the same way they used the Titans before. Just one big mystery with relics thrown all around the game world. An optimist might assume that they were in need of some mythical concepts, after they thoroughy dismantled the old mysteries they had…

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Why does Blizzard have the need to constantly escalate?

There is no need to play this stacking game if you don’t waste characters like Nzoth or the Titans.
If they want their high fantasy, they could simply keep the one developed prior instead of pulling out their rear some new Super God after we kill the Average God.

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I totally agree. But that’s a bit of spilled milk at this point, isn’t it? The titans have been throughly demystified, and we were made to face an Old God on his on turf and triumph. Asinine decisions, but those were made. So introducing new enemies/neutrals and mysteries is the only thing they can do to get them back. Though it is unnecessary and unhelful to tune up the power level, I guess. No reason to go beyond titan level, when titan level with new secrets would more than suffice.

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Quite an interesting read, which expands and reinforces what lore we already know.

I agree it looks like the WoW writing team are trying to re-introduce mystifying elements to the story again after the veil of speculation surrounding of the Titans and soon possibly Elune too have been dismantled. Hopefully if they’re smart about the new material they’ll retain the wonder.

Although I share your concerns, I don’t think they’re necessarily trying to push for a vertical expansion but, more a horizontal one. This should help curtail the issue of having a stacking issue where the next big bad has to be ever more nefarious with the power creep that comes along with it.

Looking over the text, some on the US forum thread have already commented on similarities with the chronicles cosmology chart, and that it reaffirms the primordial forces of Light and Void coexisted for a period at the outset before the others appeared or formed.

However, the section that’s peaked my interest here is the text from the part 1 of the expedition report. There are two things of note here.

Firstly to quote,

“At first I thought only two. until I perceived an infinite array–O, the terror of it!–but as of late I have settled on six. Possibly seven. but the last might be an artifact of the geometry. A fractal.”

Al’Firim, Expedition Report A37J - Part 1, p. 2.

The fact that the the seventh is identified after the two indicates that there is another power potentially outside of the cosmological chart (presented from the perspective of the titans) we have been provided with so far.

This source indicates it is not the Void (Void Lords) as some are already speculating unless their origins change as we understand them. This is because it would seem to suggest they would fall into one of the two powers so far identified at the start of the brokers recollection. The Void.

The second quote to take note of is as follows,

"Six realms. Many intersections. Countless fractals.

In balance? Possibly. But that might be wrong. If six equal one, then what is the other? The one outside the pattern?"

Al’Firim, Expedition Report A37J - Part 1, p. 6.

This further proposes the seventh does not appear to exist in harmony with the six in the geometry, the cosmology if the term is synonymous. It is hinted as something of an anomaly that doesn’t quite fit the pattern the broker has been able to decipher and describe to us so far.

To speculate, it could be a possible side effect from the six being interwoven with each other? …or something left behind that did not partake? Whatever it is, it is hinted as existing as an outlier, outside of the cosmology/pattern.

To stretch speculation further, it could be the emptiness that came before. There is a mention on the preceding page of an emptiness abating. Although, this could just be a description for a lack of something if not an entity too.

There is a lot that can be drawn and speculated from this and it does look promising but, the mention of a seventh stood out.

Another, important take on this is that “the one” mentioned is most likely illustratively represented as the ellipse that links the six powers together when comparing and referencing his written account to the cosmology chart. This likely includes everything that occurs within it thereafter, with Reality at the centre. Each manifestation of a minor power (i.e. Spirit, Fire, Air, Decay, Earth and Water) taking on attributes from the six. The broker indicates in he recitation that there are infinity more subdivisions constantly evolving but, these are examples of ones clearly defined for us in existing literature so far.

Something else to take note of here is that my use of minor does not necessarily mean lesser. I think in the context of the brokers recount they are suggesting the idea of new concepts being created constantly as the interactions play out. It would be more akin to looking at a taxonomy tree as the interactions and changes become ever more complex between initially the two, then six and every subdivision thereafter. Sort of willed into existence via circumstance.

To draw a parallel with real world mythology, think about the idea of where as gods/goddesses are created in many pagan/polytheistic pantheons from across the world.
Each typically represents a certain attribute or concept where the initial deities at the start of a creation myth represent more broad concepts. Younger deities introduced at later points are then typically more bespoke and nuanced. All of which are the physical representation of an idea defined and brought into being where ordered from initial chaos/non-being.

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There is a mixture.

Even if they indeed seem invested on reinventing the hows of the cosmic balance in an horizontal fashion (fights between Chaos and Death on top of also the usual Light vs Void ones), they are also introducing additional story agents that transcend said layers, to the point of orchestrating how their current order came to be.

No longer are we experiencing a Big Bang of sorts.
We are now presented with hints of some kind of Uber Gods that helped shape the current state of things as part of an unknown seventh cosmic entity/force. One that apparently, the new lore seems to aim at exploring.

Kinda, yeah.

Still, i was hoping we could’ve had a rework of sorts with said enemies.
They were truly done dirty by the lore, but still had the hope of revisiting their concepts in a better way if only because some writer revisited their past development and went “Damn, that was underwhelming…”.

We could’ve had a second round of these enemies in a way that didn’t reinvent some extra layer to the high fantasy. Be it because the Void grew more tumours (Old Gods) we had to deal with, because the Legion was rebuilt with new commanders (honestly, i’d take Hearthstone’s Rusty Legion as a viable alternative if only at a minor scale), etc.

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