9.1 is going to be fun

[Adunakhyr-magtheridon]

@Tyrskorn

And for those who don’t want to go in completely blind, we’ve collected some of the biggest updates and our Survival Guide here:

Yes, we know. More Maw, more Torghast, million dailies in Korthia. Absolute lack of meaningful storyline.

@Ishayo-frostmane

Now, it seems to me that the WoW dev team has noticed that people are not happy and are calling the situation hard to cope with

Replying to the Twitter screenshot of a dev post: Oh, poor thing. You care about m+, I’ll give you that. But about nothing else! Cry somewhere else!

[Ishayo-frostmane]

@Adunakhyr-magtheridon

Oh, poor thing. You care about m+, I’ll give you that. But about nothing else! Cry somewhere else!

No idea what you’re on about.

I couldn’t care less about M+. I think it’s an outrageously boring system. It’s just the same friggin’ dungeon hundreds and hundreds of times scaled to offset the fact that I’m growing stronger.

I mean look at my friggin’ profile. Last expansion I did quite a bit of M+ but I just couldn’t bring myself to do it any more.

[Adunakhyr-magtheridon]

@Ishayo-frostmane

No idea what you’re on about.

The forum didn’t let me quote the screenshot. I replied to the devs post. I added an explanation in my post too

[Celestis-nordrassil (Celestis)]

@Ishayo-frostmane

I actually think the weapon decay system is one of the things that makes that game so good. It keeps enemies completely consistent and keeps the player completely consistent and simultaneously manages to make sure the player doesn’t outscale the enemy mobs unless he’s taking a stroll through. As soon as you dig a bit further into an area, you “scale down” but in a way that’s perfectly logical.

Furthermore, it keeps you swapping weapons which creates a ton of variety.

The combat is also tremendously clever.

It is only a problem in the optional master mode where things have way too much HP. Especially during the trial of the sword.
Personally I get emotionally attached to some items and hate seeing them break. But I get your point.

@Ishayo-frostmane

Let me assure you that Baldur’s Gate 3 does not have this problem.

Excellent news. I might take a look once I manage to watch a playthrough of the previous games. I still have a lot of issues comprehending the second edition of D&D as a 5th edition player.

@Ishayo-frostmane

This shouldn’t make you cringe, it should make you excited. Developers coming up with a vision for a game they want to make and implementing it is what we pay them to do.

The only issue is that the vision might not even remotely align with the existing game you love that’s being overwritten, and that’s essentially what has happened with WoW for me.

Now, it seems to me that the WoW dev team has noticed that people are not happy and are calling the situation hard to cope with, essentially:

reddit

r/wow - No doubt they make mistakes but to say Devs dont care or deliberately…

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And I just have to say that I can’t apologise, much as I want to. I bear no ill will. It’s hard for me, too.

I do not mind the devs having a vision, I want them to be able to realize those visions instead of managing to do more harm than good (with the covenants and torgast being a case example for me)

I reeeeeeeeally want the devs to succeed in making a great experience. But for that to happen they need to think more like players and what players enjoy doing and less like “Ze artizte who iz painting zheir Mazterpieze” as if it was not a creation that people interact with instead of just looking at.

[Yorda-aszune]

So, victim card play then? I mean, I do see their POV.

Game developers implement what they are told to. It’s the higher ups who ultimately choose how things will shake out and instruct the devs on what to create plus implement.

it musn’t be fun having to create things knowing that they are designed to be counter productive to the player base.

[Kretías-tarren-mill]

@Tyrskorn

And for those who don’t want to go in completely blind, we’ve collected some of the biggest updates and our Survival Guide here:

First off as i already commented about that youtube video of your company:

@Kretías-tarren-mill

Also if you, blizzard, call that thing you uploaded on youtube a “survival guide” then sorry im out of words. Thats a preview trailer and not a survival guide.

As for the rest of your (just replace your with Blizzard given youre just a mod in all of this) guide: No clarification as to how to enable hard mode for the mega dungeon. And unlike Karazhan and especially Mechagon this isnt as blatantly obvious. If this was a move to have another “secret” then sure, however its uncalled for given previous mega dungeons.

Key rating: It states based on affixes. We know this is aimed at Tyrannical and Fortified. However the phrasing makes it sound like its the entire affix on a key present that determine the rating you receive. This is misleading and lacks clarification. If it is idd based on ALL affixes present on a key than then whle the guide is correct the system is even more trash than i had first anticipated.

And as far as i can see (so that might have slipped my eyes) no show of maps inside the dungeons as to where the new affix bosses spawn as so people could already plan their routes ahead outside of relying on third party sources.

Also no information telling people that one doesnt need a 15 fortified and 15 tyrannical for KSM but that they could get away with doing a higher fortified and then slack on a tyrannical somewhere else. Unless you removed that as a last change (if yes = /facepalm)

No clarification as to how to get the crystals needed for the legendary upgrades. The following is stated “that can be accessed by uncovering the secrets of Korthia” rather than saying rare mobs, treasure chests etc etc njada njada. Thats not a survival guide.

Also no clarification as to how the Torghast rating is calculated. Just that its there and that one gets rewarded for being “efficient”. Not a guide, but a preview. No view of the Torghast blessings or torments.

Ye sorry im afraid third party websites and community discords still do a heavily better job than Blizzard does in this regard. By a large margain. Just call it a preview rather than an actual guide. And theres probably more that would come to mind the more i think about it.

[Lynlia-silvermoon]

Well they are not writing icy-veins guides where they explain step by step on what button to press on what scenario and etc. The guide is enough to get you started in the right direction.

Its not supposed to be a manual to explain absolutely every button in 9.1. Allow some player exploring as well^^^

[Kretías-tarren-mill]

@Lynlia-silvermoon

Well they are not writing icy-veins guides where they explain step by step on what button to press on what scenario and etc. The guide is enough to get you started in the right direction.

Its not supposed to be a manual to explain absolutely every button in 9.1. Allow some player exploring as well^^^

Then its not a survival guide but a preview / preview trailer. Also eveyone is free to check a survival guide and be prepared to the fullest or ignore and explore themself.

[Vintoleth-ghostlands (Vintoleth)]

is 9.1 not even out yet? i’ve not played in nearly 2 months i think and its still not out? no wonder people are getting apathetic

[Sholah-hyjal]

@Ishayo-frostmane

The last time the community was this bitter about a patch was 6.1, the infamous Twitter patch

Bitter about a patch ? This is nothing compared to the entire duration of BFA imho

People are apathic, it’s a far cry from the outrage generated by BFA two years ago

[Cinderfel-draenor]

That’s until they learn what Shards of Domination really is. Other than recrafting your legendary if you’re unlucky.
It’s the worst system they have ever added to WoW. Above everything BFA barfed up.