A few problems with the new leveing and some idea for fixing

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So while the new leveling is good, I do have a few problems with it.

1 Dungeons do not have a select all option.
In my opinion, that is stupid and only limits the option ppl have to do dungeon runs, I do not see a reason for it not to be there, please make one Blizz.

2 allied races can not do BFA? why that is stupid.
Either I’m having a bug or allied races cant start leveling in BFA, and if it is not a bug, why are Blizz limiting it, makes zero sense.

3 Death knights start zones are split.
once again I think this is moronic this is just on more levels, one why are old races forced to do the old death knight start, and why cant the new races do the old one, give the player an option to pick what starting zone between the 2 death knight starting zones

4 I am forced to stay in a starting zone that I don’t want to level in.
On my shamen, Draenei I was forced to stay on their starting island until I was level 10, I do not see a reason for this, why can’t I just do as I always have done and walk to another starting zone that I rather want (in this case I wanted to be a Draenei shaman leveling in Teldrassil) While I have not tested if you can port away with the help of a mage, I do not think that mages should be necessary to do this.

Now for many of these, the only reason I can think of is, ‘‘it brakes lore’’ and as someone who likes the lore of Warcraft, I do not think you should limit the fun of players just beacuse it does not make 100% sense. Like who will care if a Draenei is leveling with humans?

Another reason for some might be ‘‘but new players might get confused’’ now this is also stupid because in case u don’t know, new players are forced to take Exiles Reach and then BFA, I do not mind this because this forces players to learn a bit about the game and get comfortable before they end out in a place like outland (while i do like leveling in outland, much of the questing there is outdated and might not be much fun for new players)

btw I’m not a native English speaker, sorry for all grammar mistakes!

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Good points. One thing which has annoyed me is that chromie time is disabled at level 50, and thus I cannot party sync with my friends who are levelling up. ₩

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that i did not know, but yeah i think you should be able to party sync with your friends, so that you can level/play togather

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New DKs can’t do the old quest line because it wouldn’t make any sense lorewise for them to be there ( or at least most of them)

Old DKs should be able to do the new one though as nothing speaks against Bolvar also raising non allied races

And breaking the lore IS a big deal.
No matter what you think.

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an as a counter argument i say worgen/goblin, these are cata races but they can be death knights and will start in the old daeth knight zones, lore wise that will make as much sense as the pandas in the old zones (you can make a point for gobling to be there, but Gilnean worgens not so much)

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Both of those races were around when Arthas ravaged through the eastern kingdoms/ during the conflict around lights hope chapel.
They didn’t appear out of nowhere when cata started.
They were simply made available to players at that time.

If you play through that quest line with either of those races you even get background explanations.

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almost, but Gilnean Worgen are to new, the Gilnean Worgen as we know them, got cursed just before the cataclysm, are you are not just playing as a Worgen in lore, you are playing a Gilnean Worgen…
but IMO that really should not be a reason for peoples fun to but cut, I rather have a bit of lore breaking and then be able to choose my death knight starting zone.

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“Come to finish the job, have you?
You’ll look me in the eyes when…
?
, I’d recognize that face anywhere… What… What have they done to you, ?
You don’t remember me? We were both servants of Arugal back in Silverpine Forest. We put up with his merciless torture for ages. It was you who saved me on that fateful night when we escaped Shadowfang Keep.
Without you I would have died. YOU! The most noble worgen I ever knew.
What have they done to you, ? How could this have happened?
Remember the worgen you once were, <brother/sister>! You were our savior! Fight this!
Listen to me, . You must fight against the Lich King’s control. He is a monster that wants to see this world - our world - in ruin. Don’t let him use you to accomplish his goals. You were once a hero and you can be again. Fight, damn you! Fight his control!
Knight Commander Plaguefist yells: What’s going on in there? What’s taking so long, ?
There… There’s no more time for me. I’m done for. Finish me off, . Do it or they’ll kill us both. … Remember Gilneas, our beloved home. This world is worth saving.
Do it, ! Put me out of my misery!”

This is dialogue you get ;from a person of your past before becoming a dk, when playing through the dk quests as a worgen.

“ Worgen death knights are former slaves of Arugal. These former Gilnean citizens of Pyrewood Village managed to escape the wizard’s control only to fall prey to The Lich King.”

This is from the wiki explaining it aswell.

Worgen and Goblin DKs during Arthas LK make sense. No matter how you spin it.

A maghar orc being there or a void elf simply does not make any sense whatsoever.

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fair fair i admit defeat on that, but i still hold my point, lore should not come over game fun as long as the game fun is not world breaking, like i might just be me, but i do not think anyone will lose sleep because they see a tureen with extra fancy horns in the wrath death knight area.

it is the same reason that we can go back to Azeroth in shadowlands or that we can use our new shadowlands abilities in Azeroth, even tho lore-wise we can’t escape shadowlands ATM (if I’m not mistaken that is)

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Idk how to explain it but that’s different to me. Not leaving the shadowlands would severely limit gameplay.

I guess it’s a question of if it’s worth the hassle of pissing off the player base in favor of more gameplay options. Personally I wouldn’t care.
They could always just let you experience a “memory” of how it was back then for the other DKs

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yeah i guess, anyways lovely discussion, and good luck on your journey in Azeroth!

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What you need to realise is that the devs are superior beings and know far better than us players as to how the game should be played and what is fun to play.

We players are merely inferior beings with a low IQ and we don’t know what is fun and what isn’t so the devs need to tell us.

Just imagine how awful the game would be if we could all run around doing what we wanted with no direction from those nice devs telling us what to do and how to do it.

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