A few story quirks I'm a bit confused about

I’m not very far yet – only completed the first zone. But there are two things that have me scratching my head a bit

First off, why are we on an archaeology expedition again? I mean, in the introduction quests I understand that the dragons didn’t want any Horde and Alliance fighting on the Dragon Isles, which is reasonable, but how did that then translate into a need to investigate caves and decipher old stone tablets? I mean, given our relationship with the dragons, can’t we just ask them about their island’s history?
I don’t quite get my supposed role in helping this expedition with whatever it’s trying to accomplish. Why am I doing it? Isn’t our purpose to help the dragons with these Proto Drakes? If so, shouldn’t we have boats filled with soldiers instead of archeologists?!

Secondly, Blizzard seems to have given the dragons the huge overhaul. They’re a full-fledged society now with lots of different dragons that fulfill different roles and it’s all very structured. And it’s really far away from the days of Onyxia living in a cave filled with all her eggs. But that’s still the essence of it, isn’t it? In the red dragonflight, it’s Alexstrasza who’s the mother of all the dragons. She has male consorts that she mates with, but it’s her role to lay the eggs, right?!
And likewise for the other dragonflights, it’s the aspects that do all the mating, yeah?
Blizzard have made a lot of quests about the eggs and the whelps and all of that, but they seem to avoid the whole mating ritual, which has previously been quite integral to dragon lore in Warcraft. So what gives?! Alexstrasza is still the dragon that needs to get banged in order for the red dragonflight to be restored to its prime, yeah?

Just a few quirks that I’ve come across where it feels as if Blizzard have almost omitted something by choice. But it’s a bit confusing.

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Not all dragons just the red flight. Might remember we killed the Black Flight version in Cata :stuck_out_tongue:

But that doesn’t really compute.

The red dragonflight seem structured like a beehive. Alexstrasza is the queen bee, and everyone else exist to serve her needs. Her role is to lay eggs. And she has consorts (Tyranastrasz, Korialstrasz, and whatever the current is called) who she mates with. All the red eggs are her eggs, yeah?

And the green dragonflight has the same structure, where Ysera produced all the eggs and had Eranikus as her consort. Now her daughter Merithra is in charge, so she is the queen bee, so to speak.

And for the blue, bronze, and black dragonflight it’s like a lion pack, yeah? Nozdormu is the alpha lion, and he picks whichever of the female bronze dragons as his consort (Soridormi), and then she lays his eggs.
And in the case of the blue dragonflight it’s Kalecgos who’s doing all the mating, right?
And now with the black dragonflight it’s Sabellion who’s been mating within his own flight, so he basically is the aspect in all but name at this point.

Is that not how it is?

The only exceptions seem to be within the black dragonflight, because Deathwing stole eggs and made crazy experiments and such.

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lol honestly the dragons are my fav part of the lore but never thought this much about them :stuck_out_tongue:

And no one seems to remember about Kalimdor/ Eastern Kingdoms drake eggs and whelps scattered in zones at hills and mountains - why were they left to fend for themselves? Why no one remembers many of us slaughter hundreds of them for rare pets… And we still use whelps as battle pets and no one cares lol

Sure. And that’s probably why it’s weird to me, because historically that’s really been the pivotal point about dragon storylines in WoW – the whole process of laying eggs and ensuring the future of the race.

But the way Dragonflight portrays it, it’s like the eggs are just there and being taken care of by all these different drakonids.

Blizzard don’t have a single moment that portrays Alexstrasza as the mother she is.

Even when you help Wrathion and Sabellion with transporting the eggs to the ruby waters, it’s weird how nothing is said about the fact that Sabellion – not Wrathion – is the father of those eggs. Wrathion is portrayed as caring about them as if they are shared. But they’re not. They’re Sabellion’s flight.

And Blizzard seems to go out of their way to make it all very nice and wholesome, but it’s just confusing.

Wrathion isn’t a true Black Flight though. Might notice the size difference lol. Black Flight = the biggest Dragons.

Oh he is. There’s a questline in Badlands that basically covers his birth and origin. Like Sabellion, he is the offspring of Neltharion and Sinestra (presumably). Wrathion is just very young, so he’s not fully grown yet.

Anyway, I shall go back to the game!

I think my main point of confusion – now that I’ve typed a bit more – is that Blizzard have changed dragons.
Before Dragonflight the dragons were animals who could take human form. They had flights and lived in caves, mated like animals, laying eggs, and so on. Animals.
In Dragonflight Blizzard have made them human first and foremost. They have human societies, human forms, human interactions, and so on. And then they can take dragon form whenever there’s a battle that needs to be fought.

The dragons are humans now. But humans don’t lay eggs, so Blizzard skips the part where dragons lay in caves surrounded by eggs and consorts, because it doesn’t fit with the way Dragonflight presents dragons.

It’s weird is all.

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Onyxia sister is his mother, father is unknown. Deathwing = granddad

The new class aren’t dragons btw :stuck_out_tongue: I think your confused lol they take on forms best suited to get along with the minor races so they took on High elves looks as that’s the first race they meet or interacted with, some took on forms they thought suited them, they are still dragons :stuck_out_tongue: Think transformers in car mode they are still robots hehe.

Ah yeah, that’s right.
Nevertheless, the point is that like in any animal pack or flight, there’s an alpha that passes the genes. Dragons in WoW have always been portrayed as if it’s the Aspects that are the alpha of their flights and thus the eggs are theirs. Dragonflight just doesn’t seem to show it that way, which is weird.

I’m not confused about the new class and I fully understand how the visage form works – also in story.

What’s confusing is the continuity of a character like Alexstrasza who Blizzard have always portrayed as a loving and caring mother of her own clutch of eggs.
Yet that is not how she is portrayed in Dragonflight. She’s a leader, not a mother. The eggs are also not presented as the offspring of a dragon (let alone her), but rather a valued commodity that some drakonids care for in special pools to make some beacon function again.
This is weird and confusing, because that’s not how dragons have ever been portrayed before.

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This. Best post EU.

This is the most insightful thing I’ve seen about Dragonflight.

It was bothering me in the tiny bit of the Beta I saw, and on my first day. Something Was Not Quite Right.

And why are all eggs going to Central London Hatchery and Conditioning Centre rather than being protected by their mother?

Now I understand. Blizzard have completely written out their whole dragon lore, and the connection to dragons in folklore, and replaced it with this - humans with the power to turn into dragons. Were-dragons, as it were.

It all makes sense now. Thank you.

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I’m not sure how I feel about this either - but at the same time I kind of like that this is all making me question her motives etc, I always thought Alexstrasza was a bit of a bland, one dimensional character until DF.

no one but the wrathion haters want Sabellian anywhere near the aspect power his offered 0 proof that his cured of the old god corruption other then trust me bruh also also judging by how the story presents him his just A: an ally wrathion will have to earn or B: another dead black dragon in Wrathion’s rise to power

but if Wrathion is going to become the next Earth Warder I hope he has ebyssian as a advisor to keep his reckless nature in check

Unfortunately Blizzard seem to tweak the lore to fit the expansion. Rather than tweaking the expansion to fit the lore.

Look at the car crash that was the Lich King and SL.

I don’t mind how arthas ended it was the ending fitting a monster like him to go out on a whimper having his soul tortured until all that remained was a tiny remnant of his soul was poetic for all those he had tortured and killed sadly sylvanas did not follow suit

if i was Pelagos i would have sentenced the banshee to eternity in Chorgast she got off to easy doing maw dailies

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