A proposal to raise ones voice

I didn’t see the thing about “her father paying for it” or the other thing. But I am sure she payed for all the art she used on her chars.

People just don’t want to believe something they don’t have picture evidence of for some reason.

I guess admins at Argent Archives need to restore her accounts, since that sounds very credible.

Just as credible as your argument against her.

Blizzard can actually add a very simple fix to the Goldshire problem, turn it into a “Legion Warden Tower” type zone. Regardless of WM on or off you get flagged for PvP if you enter the area. Or go the whole hog and turn it into a zone similar to Darkbrul Arena. Guilds could plan regular events based around raiding Goldshire :laughing:

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That sounds utterly glorious.

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They even have ingame, lore related reasons to do so with BfA

They really don’t. No.

okay this is epic

That sounds like a horrible idea. It would be like if Horde lost access to a whole tract of land right outside the gate of Orgrimmar.

This character is supposed to hail from Elwynne Forest, but I’ve never once RP’d her there because, well…duh?

I’m entirely serious about people ‘invading’ Gold****e though. Talk over the ERPers, blanket report anyone who is doing that nonsense in local or emotes and, since we now can, report some of the atrocious TRPs there.

I usually really don’t have a bugbear over this. If people want to risk breaking ToS and whatnot, that’s up to them. But I want to someday RP in the forest without needing to resort to WM or workarounds that are something I have to do, rather than people breaking ToS are made to stop ruining it for everyone else…

I wish offrealm normies would stay out of my forums

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Funny thing is, I’m actually considering moving one of my alts over to AD to try out RP’ing, so what happens on the server could have an influence on my experience. Is there anything in particular you don’t like about the idea, or are you just dismissing it because I’m from a non-RP realm?

Fair point, I had actually considered this for players who want to use Goldshire as a main (non-ERPing)hub. Not sure what the fix would be though (obvious answer: don’t implement something like that :yum:). What if it only flagged a player who stayed in the area longer than a set amount of time? 3-5 minutes?

To be fair if Horde had a goldshire I’d 100% support this as the solution for it, too.

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excuse u that’s offensive to gays.

It is a product of the times.

Ideally, the reaction to all of these things would be to ensure the people involved in offenses (you know the ones) are suspended/ banned, dealt with appropriately by reporting (If it breaks the law, then one can only hope Blizzard use law enforcement as a recourse). If reporting does not work, asking friends to do so too, and so on.

Other methods too – Convincing Blizzard to do something about trial accounts & what can be done/ put in TRP in those. They can go in suggestion forums, I figure there would be a lot of support. If Blizzard can restrict certain chat channels, I don’t see why they can’t restrict the channels RP add-ons go over.

Instead, sadly; we live in a world where people take it upon themselves to bear all of the offense, feel all of the distaste and move onto personal crusades.

It is not the argument of either side, I don’t really care about who argues what or why they argue it. It is the petty outrage that has emerged – It’s the often-insincere comments from people that don’t really care about the outcome and only really desire flames. It’s those who roam around in gangs upvoting/ stirring up the forums in a frothing rage.

The worst part is, I don’t even know who is actually seriously arguing any one point anymore. Perhaps it is more obvious to someone who cares strongly either side.

Over the last decade of seeing this argument, it’s fairly bloody obvious that current methods of argument are ineffective. Seriously, I don’t know how people either side are just not fed up of seeing it by now.

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So what you’re saying is that the ERP issue is Perroy&co’s fault?

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I do not like the methods employed or some of the people in this thread, but (as was stated earlier in the thread) I happen to agree with Perroy in particular that Blizzard could be doing more. Especially about the TRP business.

Blizzard should be the ones dealing with it, not us.

You are more a prime example of what I am talking about, twisting my words, changing my points and interpreting what I say in the most inflammatory way possible.

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Yeah, I’m kind of a role model.
Thanks, I do try.

In all seriousness, yes, blizz should be dealing with it but they hardly are, so that doesn’t really leave a lotta options other than trying to get people shunned unless they behave at least remotely decently, does it?

Or you could just let it go, really.

While I agree that public ERP is indecent and very annoying (I’m not a sucker for ERP in general but eh, as long as I don’t see it…) I have yet to see any proof on how it would damage a teenager’s mind more than p0rn, or seeing a 30 year old being a dick and bullying a 14 year old in a virtual game. Or just having adults expecting him to play over four or five hours a day on WoW. I know to some it’s shocking, but I’m sure dense people like Tehya here make waaay more damage than ERPers to the young playerbase.

Edit. I usually avoid posting in ERP threads because people always adopt a logic of “if you’re not with me you’re against me!” but it’s annoying to see these supposed paragons of morality going all puritan and toxic. You just don’t like ERP because you find it against your tastes - that’s fine, you may also report it to Blizzard and when it’s public you definitely should. You can also ignore the ERPers if you want to be a little drastic. But expecting a liberal place on the internet to suddenly become a 100% safe space is retarded; plus it’s obvious most of these ’anti-erp crusaders’ just love being rude and bullying when they get the chance.

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Y’know, theft isn’t as bad as murder, so really I shouldn’t be punished for stealing things, right?

Also, if you could supply a list of 14 year olds I’ve bullied at the age of thirty, that’d be neat. I’d also like to see the time machine you used to get almost a decade into the future to accomplish that.

I think it’s more that adults either intentionally or unintentionally ERPing with minors is what causes the greater issues. Speaking from personal experience as someone who was pursued and pressured into it when I was around 13/14 by someone I’d otherwise trusted and ended up feeling very, very dirty afterwards, that’s certainly not harmless.

That being said, I agree with the edit onwards more or less.

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