A request for a return towards faction-specific quest content

Yeah, I’m not a fan of these new DF type zones.
But that’s a me thing, I can’t really do Dragon riding so I don’t really get to experience these zones.

That genie is out of the bottle though and we aren’t going back to tradition zones like we had in MOP.
At least the small maze zones of Legion / SL are also a thing of the past.

I’ll just have to muddle through navigating via the minimap spending half my life face planted into the side of a mountain until regular flying is unlocked (hopefully not too long into TWW).

First of all at @ Gram .
Legion had 5 zones ready to explore with full questlines ( this includes Suramar) at the launch of the expansion .
In comparison Shadowlands had the Maw , which you visited once a week to do your weeklies .
So , no legion did not have 4 zones it had 5 . It had 5 full story zones with large quests chains . But yea the decline in the number of zones started with it .

@Uda .
The size is totally irrelevant . We have large plots of lands and we have 0 content in them . We have the same amount of Mobs and Less amount of quests spread in a very large area .
its like taking a spoon of butter and spreading one over a normal loaf of bread and another one spread over a loaf that is 4 times larger .
If you like to see huge empty zones , I guess that is a personal preference .

Dragonflight is full of repeatable dailies and world quests , but the actuall story is non existent .

It is exactly what I am talking about . Doing 1 huge empty zone is much cheaper than doing 6-7 unique zones with their own questlines .

I am not a fan of faction specific content. I play only as horde. I have never
played as Alliance and never will. BFA was not my cup of team. If the story is locked behind a faction then I am totally against it.

I did specifically say “Leveling” zones.
Suramar and the Maw were end game zones, even if the Maw had its intro section.
Which is why I didn’t say BFA had 6 which technically it did. But you only leveled in 3 of them.

In TBC you could level an alt with two distinct paths (apart from both starting in Hellfire). You could end up in Netherstorm or Shadowmoon Valley.

In Legion, BFA and SL you basically leveled in the same few zones, even if you could vary the order in which you did them.

Thats a totally different discussion.

But I have to say : if you dont like Dragon Riding, then dont. Go on a ground mount. I think there are 1000 or so to choose from.

Also… maze-like? Have you walked in some of the zones of DF? So many tight trees under a thick canopy, with huts, zones with dangerous elites…

The whole zone of Waking Shores is a maze of canyons… where you can even rock climb in some areas…

I think its an improvement from what we had. Because since it was designed from the very beginning to be enjoyed via flying, you have a whole new vertical component to the zones that you did not have before.

I smell nostalgia here… Because its complaining for the sake of complaining. If you want to discover the DF zones on foot, then do it.

But you clearly havent. I have. I did ALL the quests on a ground mount (but only ONCE) and only flew when strictly required.

But I dont blame you. Flying IS convenient. Very convenient to go from point A to B. And for those that dont want to walk around for ages in foot, there is no point on penalizing them.

And I include myself. I quested ONCE. I wont do it twice.

I’m the same, I don’t repeat campaigns.

Back in TBC or Wrath I might repeast an area of few quests if I enjoyed doing them but not an entire campaingn.

As for mazes in DF, I didn’t really notice. I was able to use dragon riding enough to get around. But I would navigate by minimap so I wasn’t really seeing the zones themselves and ended up on the side of mountains more often than I’d like. But I got around.
Couldn’t do the races or WQs to fly through bubbles or whatever. But meh.

Now I just use regular flying. It’s slow but when you factor in face-planted-in -mountain time probably quicker than Dragon Riding.

When I quested, I used this as little as possible. Ground mounts or on foot as far as I could go.

Now… I dont even fly to places. I TP to dungeons and thats about it.

Im all for having faction specific content again.

But… only if the ammount is significant and sustained.

For example, if baines questline in dragonflight was horde only, but that was all the horde only content given, then i would not bother levelling a horde character for it.

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I loved both Legion for class quests and BfA for faction specific areas and questlines. Even if I’m not that into trolls, it was great that both the Alliance and the Horde had their spotlight. Unfortunately, this costs a lot of money. If you look at expansions like BC and Wotlk, you can see that the offered game content per expansion is shrinking. Probably WoD was the worst, people were quitting in a mass due to the lack of content (and the lack of flying).

At the very least I would like to see more of a focus on portraying the distinct elements of each playable race. Eroding away the faction barriers is one thing, doing it to the playable races is even more jarring.

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Yes i agree i prefer when there is horde and alliance version to story.
Like BFA was the last expansion that did this if i’m not mistaken
and it was hell of a fun to do HORDE questline in nazmir/vol’dun and zandalar or whatever the main city was…
and then you go to alliance and experience completely different world
like drustvar or stormsong valley
good days when game was like that

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exaggerated but not completely false.

the idea of merging everything is not what I like… why are we bringing IRL globalization to the game? lol I am not totally against the horde-alliance co-op narrative but they don’t to make everything one…

That’s why after I will finish TWW , I will stop playing the game. There is no reason to continue to play a game which has become very boring : no war between factions, the same story for every faction, we are all called Champions and Heroes etc. I have several alts, not too many, but now there is no point to level with them, the game has become so blunt.

I bet 500kg that you wont.

It has been like that since TBC… and you are still here. :slight_smile:

I did not think quitting the game until DF. But I am tired of all this saving the universe path that Blizz is following. Now there is no difference if you play A or H. The story is the same and we all are brothers and sing happy songs. Even the BG are useless from the story point of view. When it was a war between factions the BG had a logic but now…in WOW real life we fight side by side but in BG we fight each other. I know that BG main goal is to grind for equipment but still…
I wonder when Darth Vader will threaten Azeroth and we all become jedi.

Good opinion.

I dont share it.

Gameplay >>>> ALL. Thats what I think.

And cross-faction content is positive for the community. And that implies that inevitably the H/A conflict is finished.

And WOW has become a Disney game for toddlers. Oh, maybe the next hero will be Barbie. I wonder if she will be A or H.

Max level is all it requires there.

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You read quests ? WoW… :smiley:

If anything, WoW is becoming more of an RPG than anything else. Stop complaining.

Also, the “barbie” hero… we got that already. People mogging pink skirts. Not just any people. Hairy orcs and kultiran males are rocking their bikini… :smiley:

Faction wars get old fast, im fine with horde/alliance getting along for now as thats where the story is “oh no the world is going to end but we should fight because out leaders are beefing again”