A very simple way to deny FOTM forever

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Other games get to ban opponent options when quing ranked game modes.

Implementing this would literally kill FOTM rerollers and force proper tuning to happen faster.

Imagine this:

You queue up. You get to select 1 spec in the whole game that YOU CANNOT BE PUT TO FACE. This is completely fair - the game has like 36 specs or something.

All of a sudden, all the FOTM BM hunters are sitting 2 hour queues for everything. They start spamming blizzard to tune their spec. Rerollers dissapear. Spec gets hotfixed.

And let’s say this leads to all specs being somewhat balanced against eachother - even better! Now everybody can have a more enjoyable game. Somebody may not like X, somebody may not like Y, it will be all personal choices. For premade groups the group leader would do the selection.

And if you think this will increase queue times - it won’t. Because once everybody realizes the game is balanced and fun to play and there is a way to deny yourself from suffering to FOTM - a lot more people will want to play!

This is something which should have been impleneted in AWC over 10 years ago, but can easily just be implemented baseline into the game as well.

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So what will stop high ranked people from for example all banning SV hunter , so Bicmax cant get any ques since there just arent any lobbys? For such a system you would need a limit to what rating it is usable or it will be abused.

Imagine everyone puts in blood dk until their friend blood dk plays and ensure he can get R1 this way.

I like the idea cause it would allow to bully flavor of the year, disc out of 70% games played. But it smells like it will encourage shady stuff

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Poor all-time BM mains not being able to play because a dozen others try to utilize the spec for FOTM purposes.

It doesn’t get more balanced by ruling out facing counter-comps or broken specs. If anything, it creates less reason to balance at all.

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What about some of us who’ve been playing the spec for years?

I wouldn’t reroll if my spec kept getting 2hour queues, I’d just stop playing immediately lmao. Arena is already on it’s knees in terms of participation, this change would singlehandedly kill arena with 1 change lol.

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Imagine you don’t give af about bm fotmers, and u just ban your counter class, for example mage as warrior. And then mage that could be in lobby, bans hunter, etc etc. and in the end you wait 4 hours to play lobby 2 arms vs 2 arms

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Then, after all these answers, lets change a bit OP’s idea.
If a spec is FOTM, and this is reflected to the number of players, make an algorithm which expands the queu times for this spec.
This may be applied to the second place FOTM etc.
But maybe better will be try to balance specs … more often.

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Maybe not bad and needet but if we just have one developer that tune PvP and his only job is too talk too the szene and put out small adjustment every week based on feedback and data

PVP would be gucci Kappa

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Ngl I wouldn’t want blizz to do balancing changes based on the forum community’s feedback. 80% of opinions on here are very biased or uninformed. ‘Nerf X because X just owned me in a shuffle!’

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why not just make it so you can only play 4 classes per realm?
force people to choose only 4 classes maximum

example , Hunter, dk, shaman, pala

but then warrior become meta, i wont be able to make a warrior alt

seems like an easy enough logical fix,

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Ofc they should not lisen too forum
With the szene i mean R1 player streamer

Most forum takes are garbage ngl

Also the change should be very minor but consistent

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The amount of fried suggestions in this thread makes me realise how people like Trump get re-elected.

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Can we stop with these bizarre ideas? Let people play what they like.

And, no, OP’s suggestion is stupid, as people will just “ignore” their worst counter.

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Personally, I think it’s way too easy to reroll nowadays. The developers are way too slow with their hotfixes in comparison to how fast you can level and gear up a character nowadays.

Either they have to be faster, or leveling and gearing has to be slower.

Spoiler alert, neither will happen because PvP is an afterthought for the devs and people want to level alts fast.

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So we ban BM hunter?

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I thought he was nuts, but actual his view on thinks are more normal then insane

Maybe you know the hot crazy scale from how i met your mother, he points high on crazy but higher on hot

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Remember theres already such system in place in terms of shuffle and blitz now. The algo they make that try prevent two or more of same spec in same lobby. If you are the fotm yourself then you ban the other fotms from your own games and have advantage in general compared to all others who dont play fotm who dont have that luxury of not seeing fotm in every game by being it themselves.

This type algos also make longer que times and are not realistical to arena or rbg. In rbg and arena you will see as many same class they want to team up, so its not realistical in first place that there is some invisible unwritten rule that prevents two of same class in any solo games, all it does is generates longer ques and gives more advantage to the fotmer himself.

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Interestingly, I’d probably ban a healer half the time in 2s at least. Imagine banning holy priest in SL lol

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After trying to play Resto druid since launch i’v had to reroll because the spec is just so bad RN. Was either that or quit. This spec is absolute cat sh!t in its current state

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Then you would simply ask Blizzard to make your spec balanced :slight_smile: which will lead to quicker balancing instead of FOTM abusing

Super simple

Blizzard has proven to listen if enough complaints happen, unless the complaints happen from DH players

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