A way to unprune Warlock Metamorphosis

Fellow Wizards of Forbidden Dark Sorcery, Summoners of Demonic Beings, We used to embrace Demonic Magic Ourselves and Become demons as well, perhaps Times have changed and we are now only to call upon swarms of Demons which to overwhelm our foes with, but I however offer a proposal

To return to the awesome fashion of old in which a warlock felt so much power when they themselves become a Demonic Being, I say we rework “Summon Demonic Tyrant” a bit, the idea in my mind would be to Rename the Ability to simply “Demonic Tyrant” or “Demonic Overlord” and after the necessary cast time, transform to the Demonic Creature yourself, Altering our Shadow Bolt to a “Shadow Bolt Volley” and granting us a Haste Boost to make up for the fact that we lost access to one of our Demonic Minions

Hopefully this way (at least for me) Demonology will feel much more powerful when the Tyrant Comes out

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I mean you’re definetnly heading in a good direction but in tha case I would suggest maybe we get Chaos wave back instead and we deal some chaos damage plus some additional damage (not that much above like 3% per demon).

My vision has always been making the Warlock “corrupt himself” if you have seen Gul’dan in phase 2/3 in NIghthold or the Feltotem tribe in Highmountain and the fantasy would be while other Warlocks draw immense power from corruptive demonic magic, the Demonologist let’s the corruption take over him.

I would personally say we need bit of a more radical rework that would involve resources but I honestly think your solution is very simple and pretty great and it would actually move us in the right direction. Pretty cool.

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If warlock is destend to stay as summoner, then our control over our demons should be improved, and all demons that we summon should be redesigned and buffed in gameplay area of the game. Right now, developers treats our demons like some DoT effects with physical form in game, and with such desing aproach our demons don’t have any benefit of such desing. Non of our non-main demons has any usefull effect exept the raw damage, and none of our talents improves or empowers our demons in significant way. With that crap in mind, since legion we lost any talent or passive exept mastery, that improves our demons. Demonic strenght and Soul strike is a bad talents, because they strickly designed around one speciefic demon, while in the past warlock was able to play with any demon in his or her dissposal without any problem.

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I’ve been saying this since tyrant was introduced. Why not let US become the tyrant slightly altering and buffing our spells like old meta.

Although sadly this will not happen because well demon hunter.

I think it could be justified for warlock to still turn into something, not neccesarily demon but maybe become corrrupted like Gul’dan in NH or Feltotem tauren in Highmountain. I think the problem is more it’s very similar to shadow priest but from what I can see shadow priests don’t want void form anyway, so we could have meta back imo.

I feel more like Blizzard just genunly has their vision for the spec and think they know better but actually have no idea how to impliment this, but since they’re too proud they just made the spec “not completely broken” and now pretend it doesn’t exist.

Worse they are proud of what they did to demo and destro…

Spec-wise, we’re making relatively minimal changes to Demonology and Destruction, as we feel their core rotations and talent options fit well with our goals for Shadowlands .

This clearly shows how delusional they are or how person who a responsible for warlocks hates this class.

Let’s take a look at focal point where warlock design was destined to fall - when Blizzard has fired Alexander Brazie AKA Xelnath - Warlock class designer in MoP.

He took the lead role of redesigning warlocks in MoP after horrible cata Design. And he made a good damn job. But in the middle of the xpac or closer to the end of it, he had some serious disagreement with dev team, and he expresses his frustration in public space - twitter. This was the reason why blizzard fired him, because he violated their inner politic.
To be clear, he made a huge mistake of spiling this out in twitter. BUT.
This was a reaction of person who cared about class and it’s community(us), and yes disagreement was about warlock changes and nerfs.

And After this point, we had WoD where our design was mostly unchanged and was made on autopilor - don’t touch/change things that worked. They didn’t changed us in WoD because by the time when they fired Xelnath, WoD was too far in development and they clearly didn’t had a man power to change us then.

But in legion they had time and reson to change warlocks and Demo - Demon hunters.
Demo itteration of MoP and WoD had a complex desing of Metamorphosis gameplay…

  • It was solid in gameplay desing area
    • Design was not limited to simple damage dealing routine
    • Design had ways to alter your gameplay
  • was well fited in the Lore by Green-fire quest

Blizzard or person responsible for warlock/demo changes wanted to erase any Xelnath legacy. They made a 180 turn from Xelnath design. They removed personal resources of specs limiting warlocks only to soul shards. They decided to make demo a puppeteer class despite lore inconsistencies and reasons why Demo before was designed around QUALITY of your demons and not QUANTITY. This clearly was work of a person who valued his/her desing ideas more then a desires of the community.

And now in Shadowlands this trend continues. Just look at design and unpruning of rest of the classes, they will get back their active/passive abilities, class defined abilities back, some abilities will be avaliable across diffirent specs…and what warlock will get? Curses and corruption between all three specs…yeah how great it is.

Person who designed warlocks only has slight idea about how destro should work, and zero clue about demo or Affli. Just look at our CC kit, it clearly was designed for infamous combo of Chaos bolt > Fear > Chaos bolt > Fear > Chaos Bolt > Shadow fury. Demo and affli can’t effectivly utilise our CC kit, yeah Demo has stun from Felguard but unlike other classes with range stun, Axe toss has slow travel time. Succubus was hurted as well, in WoD her seduction was nerfed and recieved 30 sec CD, but they forgot that

  • Seduction could break from any damage.
  • Succubus can’t do anything at all while she uses seduction.
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