I’m not saying anymore that ‘‘we’’ need it to change. Well i don’t love it, it doesn’t feel right. I watched Cdew complaining about it, Lontar also said it, Absterge. The game is difficult and healing is super hard. No question about it. There are about 2k players in the world that can reach their goal in a season. PvP ladder isn’t that big really, it’s small amount of players, a handful, playing over 2k + even now. If you have a class that has absorbs such as priest you can mitigate already high dmg that you have face in games. If you don’t, well then it goes into other way. Priests , Druids are really good because they have good and effective heals but even both classes are good, it’s not enough. The massive frustration i have and even top players have is the micro cc. Snared, feared, stunned and i don’t wanna even talk about having downtime to play the game as a healer. Past season i played around 5k + games Solo Shuffle and i did enjoy some part of it. In the season start i got my goal on first day and i’m not looking arguments ‘’ yeah because it was just a fresh start and therefore it was easy’’ Nah, not a single game in the season is easy, not even the globals you squeeze in and watch your tierset at the same time and trying to focus into the game. This is not possible, the stress is huge and if you somehow heal better than the opponent you are instantly called out for being hardstuck. Do i hate healing? No i don’t, that’s my favourite role in the game but as you play any other healing specs they are similar to each other. Whatever Cdew said, retail is fine but it has issues and big ones.
You have my Respect for being a healer.
I just want to clarify what i hate in pvp: I need to track enemy cd’s and i have weakauras to track enemy goes. My unit frames show my hot’s, i have focus target macro for tracking enemy healer actions, i have party 1,2,3 heals because targeting the party member is too slow. I also have interrupt announcer that shows when all kicks are done so i can cast. I’m tracking with WA my tierset and i need to also find time to do dmg.
- Weakauras
- Omni CC
- Omni CD
- Bigdebuffs
- Elvui customized ( to show absorbs, Sharpen, MS effects )
Do i think all of this is necessary? No.
The first thing that I would change is the removal of all ms and heal absorb effects from all classes. Dampening of enough of a heal/selfheal balance System.
Second is, reduce damage done by healers im pvp by 50% so a healer is doing what he should do healing.
Remove cc categories, all cc triggers the same DR, there are so many ccs that we don’t need categories anymore.
After those changes we can nerf/buff classes.
enjoy 60 minute games
Im not high rated, just casual SS healer. In my opinion game mechanics isnt that bad. Only if You are fresh in wow or in healing, experience in arenas most probably will be horrible disaster… i dont think that i need to explain why. There need some quest line or something which teaches basics how to avoid basic CC, other class strenghts and weakneses, positioning, spell rotation etc… Also this is not ok that its not possible to play as healer with many third party addons.
Imagine you are fresh wow player, while leveling healed dungeons and accepted SS quest and entered SS as healer for first time in arena… not many people will join it again
Even if for healer it will feel a lot easier. So we could have more healers in solo so shorter qtime.
Dont do it then. As I started tracking different stuff throughout the years at some point i couldnt see a thing in my UI so i just deleted everything and kept only some Basic stuff such as gladius, interrupt bar and lose control. Tbh i dont think you need to track most cds anyway since for example rogues cds are not cds and you can assume they have them rdy 24/7, same with mages, monks.
Also i dont think you need to do dmg as healer. Actually thats imo one of biggest mistakes since most inexperienced healers dont know when they can afford to play aggro and where they can’t and end up in awful positions cos of that or simply forget to heal and lose cos of that.
I dont think such thing exists nowadays tbh.
Its 2023 there are guides everywhere, if you want to get better you can.
If anything i would make cc last longer so it actually has value (while removing rogues from the game ofc).
If you want healers to not feel stressed then lowering dmg or burst spikes Is probably the way to go. For example in bfa S1 games lasted even 17 minutes and very often if you made a mistake as a healer it didnt matter till damp. It has its disadvantages tho.
Why would you even do dmg as a healer tho. If you do youre trolling in most cases.
If cc isnt catagorized and all becomes zug zug im quitting wow pvp immediatly
Sounds biased AF ngl
Removes rogues from the game? Lock has just about as much
Coil, pet stun
Fear(spammable) shadowfury
And as demo another pet stun with grimoire
And as destro if played seduction pet.
Insane slows and even cast time reduction and attack speeds reduction
Seems about just a smuch a rogue if not more
Yes affli for example has so much cc its impossible to play against :(.
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I see youre trolling and missed point on purpose. Thats fine.
Hey i dont mind they have so much CC at all. But saying rogue must be removed because of CC as a lock just seems a bit hipocrit
Rogue must be removed not cos it has cc but cos you will die in every kidney 100-0, theyre immortal, have insane mobility, insane cc, insane dmg, they have everything and theres no counterplay to what they do. Also i’m not denying that demo lock is (was? Idk how theyre are after nerfs) broken and i also dislike the design. However there are different issues when it comes to demo compared to rogue.
I dislike the design of warriors and DH
So thats that, whatever, every game has either a class or spec you wont like
I think rogues fit their role perfectly
Immortal?? These guys are squishy af.
Also its THE hardest class there is
I rather have a rogue easily killing me because their skill level is INSANE
Then just get bladestormed(just an example) to death without a decent setup or skill and just get zug zugged i dont like BM for the same reason.
Zugzug is already a thing in wow, i think that removing categories will increase the time you can actually play instead of sitting in another cc.
I dont want to be rude but i dont think you ever faced a good Rogue.
I never understood the obsession people have with filling their interface with 100 addons and never looking at them because it’s impossible to look every 0.1 of a second to every little addon or weakaura while still performing your rotation and moving and looking at the players positions. Only if you have medical diagonsed autism or are a robot.
I always ask myself before adding an addon: Will I be able to do anything if I know this information? What does it help me to know if the enemy has Trinkets or Defensives available?
Will they not press them anyway if I know? And if they don’t have them, they die either way during the go, so there is little to no gain knowing all this stuff about the enemy.
I prefer to focus on doing max damage at all times, and reacting if I see a cooldown pressed. That’s literally it. Nothing else matters even 1% in the outcome of the game.
Don’t even wanna talk about people who track their parteners CDs as well, like dude, do you play 3 chars at the same time? let them worry about what and when they press stuff, you do only you.
the shuffle dh has spoken, he no track cd and people who track party cd are bad according him. awesome, dont get what that wall of opinion had to do with thread tho but i think we have found the reason why some have never gained higher than challenger in arenas
like multiglads , awc champs and rank 1 players , good players and if you wanna be good adapt , pvp is about rotating cds
You can do that without tracking anything, just by opening your eyes and paying attention to what is happening. Games last for less then 2-3 minutes in this meta, at least in shuffle which I play, surely you can remember if your healer trinketed 30 seconds ago, or if your priest used swap, or your pally bubbled or bop’ed you.
I dunno about how other people play the game, I know just what works the best for me, less screen clutter and more memory work.
And I do decent against those multi-glad, awc and rank1 players, beaten a lot of them plenty of time without 100 addons.