About so called "world first race"

  1. There was guild called Paragon, that was always nr1. Real skilled players.

  2. If mythic mode was exclusively without addons - these guilds would not do a sht.

  3. They will and exploit every possible bug if they can.

  4. TOP first 2-4 guilds exchange information about boss fights.

  5. Echo-Method were involved in sexual assault scandal, yet did you forgot?

Best what you could do is to stop watching their streams and support nothing but cheaters, exploiters, criminals.

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Never heard of them & when were they number 1? For years it was always Method & before that it was Paragon or Nihilum

They would still kill the bosses, it would just take longer.

No they don’t, because they get banned, it has happened in the past

This only happens now that it’s being streamed, in the past boss kills were never released until other guilds had killed it

It was one only a few of the officers in Method, which is why the rest split off to form Echo. None of the Echo players were ever implicated in the allegations.

They are none of the above

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Well, to be fair, Scrype did admit to RMT. Which doesn’t make him a criminal per se, but that is an act against the ToS. Yet, he’s right there in Echo.

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Watch world first?

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I think you are wrong here, Fragnance even apologized for sharing out revealing pics of a girl ( I don’t remember if friends or ex gf) but yet he is still there In Echo.

Scripe was completely into rmt and yet it’s still there lol.

Method uproar from their guild members and org leaving was nothing but them trying to save their own face.

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What has this to do with nowdays wf race ?

Yet they would still do waaaay more than average player without those addons , whats your point there ?

Yes, they are using everything they can to achiev their goal , thats how META works pretty much …

Totaly relevant when it comes to WF race , truly a master point …

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it’s paragon.

A lot, everything moderated by addons, scripts, even coaches announcing what people have to do.

As i said real race would be mythic mode without addons and no coaching who telling who is next and what somebody have to do.

Yes it’s still relevant.

As with any other competition, rules of the competition are what you make them to be.

If everyone can use addons and coaching then … well, everyone can. Still even playground.

Then bosses will be easier? Blizz themself will add notices for mechanics? It’s pretty delusional to think bosses are made harder on a whim.

And in other games top 8 teams are playing scrims between each other. Not much different and nothing new.

Josh was alleged for innapropriate behaviour towards females (most likely true), their co-owner had some beef with anniefuchsia and you can’t know who’s wrong there. Fragnance appologized for some naked pics but i can name 4 people from my 8-12th grade class that did the same. That doesn’t make them villians, just doing dumb stuff based on hormones.

https://www.method.gg/raid-history/vanilla

If that wasn’t your local guild doing realm first then the internet got hacked and they were deleted completely cuz all i found is 1 old alliance guild without any raids done.

Sylvanas add ignored, phase 2, second left side: hotfixed after 2 pulls.
N’zoth mythic phase not spawning: despawned boss, hotfixed next try.
Jaina making elemental add a must kill: hotfixed and reverted, made the boss unkilable even with bis gear.
Kil’jaeden add despawn on tank death: Done on purpose to avoid a mechanic that was unplayable, admitted by Ion himself as “mathematically impossible”, hotfixed both tank death and redid mechanic order.

Dunno what this post is even about.

The top guilds would be top with or without addons.

It’s called a raid leader. They’ve been a thing for a very, very long time. Just about since the first raid.

A raid team without a raid leader is called a pug, and would never come close to killing a mythic end boss while it’s relevant.

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U quoted me on wring thing .

My quote you used wasnt about addons . We all know addons (wa especialy) plays a big role nowdays, but u saying they wouldnt do a sht without them is simply not right , and if those players couldnt play without it , average joe couldnt even log into game then…

I’m glad I’m not the only one that sees it like this, but then the online world is filled with idiots who would forgive their online heroes for anything.

Idiots have literally protested online at people being convicted and jailed for crimes that they’ve committed because “they’re too cute”, it’s ridiculous what people will condone for illogical reasons.

Nothing? Josh is gone cuz nobody defended him, Sascha Steffens is gone cuz nobody defended him.

They lost their sponsors and most people there depend on them. If you are that deep in the scheme explain to me how is it to to live without your main income (flex, gingi and perfecto don’t have jobs besides wow). You didn’t expect these people to be the happiest ever right?
Freaking Sco’s girlfriend left him shortly after that on top of everything, thats way more than “saving face”.

And by adding this point you created a shaitshow. Good work…

I was in that guild in tbc+wotlk. We were good (for that timeline players) but dont remember being r1.

This just sounds a lot like reality crap like Jersey Shore and whatnot.
I have zero sympathy.

And the people who knew this was going on and continued to play with him until it blew up publicly? That’s basically defending him (by doing nothing) until it no longer became beneficial for them to do so.

If I knew that stuff was going on I certainly wouldn’t hide it and continue playing with them until it become inconvenient to do so.

The fact that you question it like you do as an attempt at a “ha gotcha” moment speaks volumes.

“Hey guys, I did this and that with this girl today”, “Hey guys i was pushing anniefuschia but she didnt like me”.
Tell me if you have ever raided how much do you know about your guildies’ personal life. Do you expect if they f-ed up to go and publicly say it to their guildmates? Social interactions don’t work like that. You don’t know the psycho until you start living with him.

They still could get a job like everyone else.
It’s weird enough that Blizzard puts more money into making a world first race possible that maybe 2% of the playerbase care for while completely ignoring the 98% of their (former) fans.

I can also become an austronaut.
Honestly that sounded like that girl from the memes saying “if you are homeless just buy a house”. They had their dream job and they are sad they might lose it. Isn’t anyone sad about losing something they like doing?

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