Hey dude , spoiler in title , not everyone likes spoilers !?
Iâve read there is a second movie being developed by Legendary, itâs probably just a rumour.
there may even be a LotR TV series.
the warcraft movie was TERRIBLE !!
i dont know who wrote the script but⌠oh my god, some one needs to go to film school.
you must know deep lore of wow in order to figure out whats going on there, learn how to make movies before making one.
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I would honestly rather see a 3D movie made by Blizzard, 100% faithful to the original lore than another Hollywood, movie tbh.
If Blizzard wants people to get interested in Warcraft history, this isnât the way.
I mean they have such awesome, cinematics, even if they had to increase the team size, it would be worth the try.
Also it doesnât need to be a movie released on theatres.
In example I enjoyed Street Fighter the animated movie way more than the movie made with real people.
I still own the VHS.
Cheers.
The thing is a movie cannot be made âjust for the fansâ unless the fan group is alrge enough to make the movie turn a profit on its ownâŚWoW fan group is not so large.
Which means the plot probably needs to be adjusted for the general viewer to make it somewhat coherent to them. WoW has a LOT of lore and some of it is quite complex and requires understanding lots of prior events to make any sense of further events.
In order to properly set up the relevant WoW lore to the movie in question and the time period (so opening of dark portal) there was a ton of stuff that would have been needed to be covered but to do that in two hours is just way too much, hereâs stuff that was explained even when the film lore was âdumbed downâ as it were:
- What fel is and how it relates to the legion (or what they are)
- Gulâdanâs cocercion into becoming a warlock by KJ
- The draenei leaving argus and becoming targets for the legion, and KJ, which sets up the orcâs corruption
- The rise of the shadow council and the changing of orc culture to accept the new fel-conflict direction
- who sargeras is and why he wants the orcs (and legion) to invade azeroth in the first place.
WoW would be better served as a television series, with each âexpoâ or in the case of the earlier games, as a series like so:
Season 1: War of the Ancients, focus on setting up who the legion are, their problem with azeroth, also shows us parallel the flight from Argus concludes with Azshara falling into the waves and showing nelf returning to druidism
Season 2: Draenor and the corruption of the orcs. We pick up on the Draenei story to introduce them properly. Covers events from their initial contact up to the opening ofthe dark portal. This is where we are shown humans and azeroth too in passing.
Season 3: First War when Orcs invade Azeroth and the Human Alliance fights back.
Season 4: Through the Dark Portal, focuses on the 2nd game and chasing the Orcs back through the portal and the internment camps on Azeroth. Also introduces us to a young Thrall
Season 5: The events of pre-WCIII and WCiII with Thrall discovering Kalimdor, the formation of the new Horde, return of the night elves and alludes to the rise of the scourge in the eastern kingdoms (but they are not a major focus) their part in the main story against archimonde is downplayed.
Season 6: TFT: Arthas is the main character here and we follow the scourge more formlerly and chart his journey to icecrown.
Season 7: WoW, story focuses on the new alliance and new horde and their relationship although there is some reference to the scourge with naxxramas and plaguelands (skip the Câthun bit honestly)
Season 8: TBC
Season 9: WoTLK
Season 10: skip a proper season on Cata, it can be dealt with in flashbacks during early episodes here: focus on Pandaria, Garrosh etc.
Season 11: Garroshâs escape, WoD
Season 12: Legion
And stop there because that would be a great place to end the series with Kilâjaeden (who would have been introduced as early as season 1) being defeated. Possibly a few bonus episodes in a âmini series 13â showing Argus. Thatâs where iâd stop though.
They cant make a series where humans are not even shown in the first 2 seasons. People wonât watch that.
As a series I can see 2 routes they can go with it.
a) They do not cover any main story at all but show a small story on the side that happened to normal people while the big stuff was going on. This way they can introduce new characters who may find their way into the game or are already in the game as minor characters. Something like Mankriks years before his wife died.
b) Make it look like a documentary. Like the fan made documentary of the klingon war in star trek. There they can show battles and duels and have interviews with contemporary whitnesses like Thrall or Anduin. Since it is fantasy even with the dead. Who cares.
I doubt anyone but a tiny minority actually cares about this. Itâs also very unlikely a second movie will happen, considering the first one wasnât exactly profitable. Many non warcraft players didnât even know what was happening. In order for them to be successful, they NEED to change the story to make it easier for first timers to understand.
I agree with your first point, it would be a very hard sell on that basis. I feel like this information is important from a storytelling point of view though. Perhaps the focus could be on the âtime travellersâ which included humans, as in itâs from their PoV mainly?
Either way itâs a colossal amount of lore to handle and without the context itâs a bit too confusing. I remember watching the first WC movie with my wife (who had only recently got into WoW) and she had lots of questions regarding stuff like what is fel, why are the orcs going after the humans in the first place, what was the deal with medivh having the demonic corruption etc and I just had to answer the same kind of thing almost everytime by explaining thereâs a lot of backstory and info that is kind of needed to understand the whys behind it.
I like your second suggestion, and the first actually, where the âloreâ is kind of background occurances but the story focuses on individuals.
I doubt that a Lothar-Garona romance was given to him by Blizzard, or the implication that Medivh fathered Garona. Also, did you hear of his plans to have Thrall be informed of Kalimdor by a captive TAUREN IN LORDAERON, and NOT by MEDIVH? This guy isnât serious, and I wonder why they needed a director anyway, since they were pretty good managing stories and cinematics by themselves. I guess because of commercial/maily reasons.
Really? I mean, were you offended by this? Saying âmanâ when expressing disappointment / âeye rollingâ is just a figure of speech, not an assumption of gender. And if someone assumes a gender, what then? Are they a sexist?
The scene where Garona is at Karazhan, taking care of Medivh after he fel unconcious. Hereâs a text I copied from a website:
âStay with me here. Garona is half-orc, half-human, with a orc mother who was executed by her people for giving birth to Garona, whose name in orcish means âcursed.â The identity of her father would be a complete mysteryâand completely irrelevant besidesâif it werenât for a scene about 2/3 of the way through between Medivh and Garona, where the former talks about his lost love. When he was younger, Medivh explained, he travelled far and wide and found âa strong and noble people, among them a female who accepted me for who I was.â When Garona asks him if he left his lady love, he changes the subjectâclearly itâs a sore spot. He tells Garona she has to be willing to go âto the ends of the worldâ (âŚor into another one?) to find love and then gives her a present of a magical blue flowerâ. There you go.
It isnât a spoiler, because ti si just a rumor. Even if it were true, that would be news, not spoilers. A spoiler usually concerns the lore, the plot. If there was an announcment for a second movie, that wouldnât be a spoiler whatsoever.
I understand that it would take too long to explain everything so that non-fans would understand and that just could not happen. I never said that the movie was bad for being rushed and leaving many question marks, although it was, and that is one of its worst parts. What I said in my original post is that there were made some changes that were completely unecessary, and only achieved to make the movie look more âHollywood-ishâ, more âAmericanâ. Also the dialogues were cringy.
Yeah they did it was a cut scene but itâs on the bluray/dvd extras along with a few others.
I went to watch it at the cinema but it wasnât something Iâd rave about.
It was okay at best.
I donât really think another film along the same lines is a good idea. I would much prefer Warcraft did their own animated series or something like we get for the shorts introducing new expansions, only longer and more story xD
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the first one was part of warcraft 1. but seeing how stormwind did not get sacked its not finished. no need to skip to warcraft 2 when 1 wasnt even finished
Yeah i know, thats exactly why i think they wont do another movie, unless they decide to focus purely on the chinese market for it
yeah a animated series or movie would fit warcraft far better than those badly cast actors in the movie. Also animated movies/series tend to stick to the original plot more than live actors. Just look at the resident evil movies for one, the live action ones were absolute trash
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