Kinda like I been saying since forever, random BG’s, since the dawn of BG’s have always had people in greens, some in blues and some fully geared. That’s just how random BG’s have always been. You could pretty much bet your house that if someone on your team was poorly geared, someone on the opposite side was poorly geared (unless premade) They gave people rated BG’s for those who wanted to play ‘serious’ PVP but they use every excuse known to man as to why they can magically find enough people for a premade for randoms but somehow cannot find players for rated. Doesn’t matter which way you slice it or how many versions of excuses people have, we all know the true reasons why people choose random over rated with their premades, they are fooling nobody.
Premades are a feature, not an interference. They have always been part of the natural process. Commonly, both teams have at least one or sometimes multiple premades of various sizes in random bgs.
I get what you want to say, and this is why I think a handicap for larger premade groups is the perfect solution for smaller bgs. It would reduce the advantage of the premade groups to a level that the opponents can overcome if they have no premade on their side.
- CBA with the organizational effort / CBA with random people I don’t know, wanna get more rounds done quickly.
- If you want to chill and not try hard.
- If people ask you out for bgs who are not on your skill level. For example, you normally play on 2.2 MMR and have a rival friend and a challenger friend who want to play with you.
- The wrong time of the day when no RBG groups are going anymore.
- Epic BGs are only available in casual mode.
There you go, these are the real reasons.
And when they do play RBGs, they do just fine, so the entire argument of “you’re just too bad for rated” is complete rubbish. I have both the highest RBG experience and the highest RBG cr this season out of anyone in this thread and I play random bgs in groups. Chad YES.
When will the “Just go play rated, bro” crowd finally learn their lesson?
True but you know, history is full of legalised things that demonised later. Rules are human made at the end, that is why we are discussing them.
You now seem to be putting yourself in the premade category, as far as I know you play 5 man, that is not what I call a premade. I’m talking about the full teams of 10-15 you find in normal randoms or the queue syncing goons with their multiple 5’s.
You know, the ones that literally could form a group for rated with no trouble at all, since they can manage to get 10-15+ for a random.
You dont play with a ‘friend’ or two. I always see you with the same people every BG, full stack group. I have heard you have your own community aswell just to farm normal players. You always try to convince people that your not part of the premades but always fail.
Seems like you have no idea what you’re talking about, once again, we are a groups of friends that queue together whenever we can and whenever we want in a minimun of 3 players or 5 players. Don’t pretend to be an saint around here where you personally admitted to have your ‘community’ of glad hunters in an attempt to ‘annoy me’ after that victory of yours in Gilneas. Good job that you have your own friends. We too have our own friends.
I am waiting for his reply, not yours. I know you are friends but at the moment you make your friend look like someone that is weak that cant defend himself. If he has some decent stuff to say I will reply and if he dont I wont bother to reply.
You are certainly making a scene, I suggest you back off kid.
You probably see me with Hühnchen the warrior often. He tags along most of the time.
Sometimes Valdrakon joins me.
Here are the names of other players who join with me somewhat frequently:
Slapshot (rogue)
Capitalista (warrior)
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Ghettotrap (hunter)
Some Russians from my RBG team
If you see me with one of these names in the same team, it’s because I brought them with me.
Oh and sometimes I join Magegod.
Then there are other players that join with me sometimes, but they either have many alts or accompany me so infrequently that mentioning them would be of no use.
If you can think of other players who you think associate with me, you can mention their names and I can tell you whether they “belong to me.”
They are all from my FL, not from any community. I don’t own such a community and I am not part of one. Most of the time we don’t run in a full 5 stack, somewhere between 2 or 3 people is the average.
No. I very openly say I play BGs with friends, but I don’t do queue syncing in epic bgs.
Ok then, sorry.
You know, I really dislike the term premade.
I am a fan of precise definitions.
“Premade” is the opposite of that.
An umbrella term for groups joining together ranging from 2 to 40 members.
The people in this thread constantly use this term and everyone has a different Idea of what it means. Some mean queue syncers in epic bgs. Some mean small groups up to 5, some mean both. It would be helpful if the players discussing the topic in the forum were more precise. We are constantly talking past each other.
Btw, I wanted to tell you GG for the round of Blitz where you defeated me and Valdrakon. You tanked very well in WSG. 
Yeah I have always called a full premade a premade, 5 mans or whatever I have always called semi-premade or part-premade or simply 5 man.
Hehe aye I remember seeing you in our FR and got a bit of a rush of blood and was like “Oooh it’s Fistus” and just auto switched to attacking you. To be fair, the tanking bit in WSG is the easy bit, providing your team is aware of what’s going on.
Still wish they’d get ferals sorted and properly competitive again though cos outside of WSG and TP, tanking gets a bit boring. Would usually FC as feral as well but also had the ability to go hunting EFC in those games where nobody else will, at the minute if nobody goes for EFC I have to sit there praying for their EFC to spontaneously combust before I get ganked.
We also got a bit unlucky because our paladin tank didn’t do his job and refused to go for the flag but I liked your performance in that round, just wanted to say that.
Aye I did wonder why you were the one taking the flag when you had a tank, saying that, Monks are pretty decent flag carriers anyway due to mobility and healing but if your tank is just trying to dps then you’re already at a disadvantage.
The amount of times I’ll be just about to grab a flag and a rogue or a hunter or whoever gets there quicker than me will grab it and I’m like “Why?” It’s basically just left me being almost useless other than giving them a stampeding roar or an occasional CC.
One at silly o’clock this morning and am about to grab the flag, rogue grabs it and runs off down the tunnel, I asked why when there was a tank ready to grab, his response “I was here first” 1 minute later he was dead and flag returned 
Hopefully we get good ol’Opaloka on our side in a future blitz 
I’m purely talking about the groupsynced premade garbage that the same people seem to be running every day most of the day in epic bg’s… and a handfull of those same people put some next lvl organization into avoiding challenging content and cheesing honor lvls and HK’s. Way more than I ever could have imagined tbh. Yesterday I encountered spies in 3 epics against zénnie and zadó and alfredopauly pewnog lórna nephá etc etc. I’m like wth is going on here LOL. not only do these people groupsync and abuse report system to create perfect premade comps stacked with healers and ranged. But They also put spies on the team they’re up against to see who’s reporting them in chat. Because apparently that’s the only thing that bothers them. Not the fact that they’re ruining the game for players for an absurd amount of time a day. with apparently even more absurd lvls of organization and effort, than I could have ever imagined…again just to cheese honorlvls and HK’s or because they just get off on facerolling random noobs all day.
It’s epic bg’s. theres literally barely any meaningfull rewards to gain from that mode.
I already found them pathetic for playing like that but I greatly underestimated how truly pathetic they are tbh lol. I mean I am talking about sending spies into the opposing team for an unranked game mode because ego’s are so fragile they need to know who’s complaining in chat and telling others to report…
These people have zero chill and are such try hards in a bracket that has no meaningfull rewards or anything really. And put 100times more effort into cheesing honor and hk’s that it would take to do challenging content…
I literally had people not participating in the match. standing on the other side of the map doing nothing but inspect me… And strangely they had like 800honorlv and only a handfull of matches played on that alliance toon. I could go on but it’s also clear they read and comment here. since I record a lot of my gameplay I have half a mind of just streaming all of their bs because most players have absolutely no clue what lvl of insane prep and tacts they use just to roflstomp a bunch of randoms. to put it in perspective some more lol, on the one hand you have a groupsynced perfect premade comp stacked with heals and rdps who are on voice etc. they get rid of players by abusing repport system. stacked with consumables toys whatever you can imagine. running the same game mode all day every day to avoid challenge and farm honor and HK’s. On the other side you have a glaivethrower who can’t even hit the gate and is shooting into the ground because drunk driver just wants to have fun or summin 
All that effort just to curbstomp random players like that all day…
That’s the lvl we’re talking about. My mind is blown tbh lol.
Funny part is I got that 8 years ago on a class I haven’t played since BFA simply tab dotting at the back of the BG, kind of shows you how much I’ve tried to play RBG’s, doesn’t it?
Neither is STILL having a negative win rate from nearly 800 rounds of solo shuffle on one of the strongest healers in the game.
How do you know?
I genuinely couldn’t care less if I beat anyone in an unrated BG. I find the whole concept of playing unrated BGs in a premade when you’re fully geared cringe, because as people like you and Delenis have demonstrated, when you enter environments where people are similarly geared to you, you don’t do very well.
So is buying boosts for gold, it’s still cringe. If I got boosted to Gladiator for gold and admitted to it, and then I said ‘hey guys look how much better I am than you because I’ve got Gladiator’, would you not use the fact I got boosted against me? Why though? It’s a legitimate way of playing?
Do I spam premade random BGs daily with people in full conquest gear?
And it’s having such a positive effect! 
Not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you? I queued a couple with a guy that wants me to teach him how to play SP, and then he kept inviting people while me and him were in the queue. I still found playing in a premade extremely cringe and boring.
You’re so obsessed with me because I’m 1000x the player you are, it’s kinda weird man.
Classic cataclysm is coming, only Alfreomonkey and her boyfriends will be left playing EBG.
To cut this short, let’s just say that we are different types of players and our reasons for not always playing RBGs are not the same as theirs.
And I am still not trying. Got duelist after 2 days into the season, ever since then it has been free play mode just for fun, oftentimes not quite sober in the middle of the night. I got what I wanted from the mode this season - verdant crush. What else do I want? A sh1tty pennant which I already have in red for sweating on 2.4 plus? CBA man.
SS is just the stuff I play when I am bored after work and can’t do anything in the real world because nothing is open yet at night. At 4-5 AM you can’t even find random bgs, but solo shuffle opens instantly because of healer privilege.
It’s easy to recognize the names of people who play in groups. You read a name and you just know “Ok, I know this guy, does he have his friends with him too?” The answer is often yes. Your team had such a group. Now whether you joined with them or got sorted with them by coincidence, I don’t know.
You found it important enough to make an extra forum post just to brag how you beat me.
When I play rated, I have
73% 2s WR
59% 3s WR
59% RBG WR (the only bracket I care about btw)
51% WW SS WR
But sure, focus on that terrible 49% in a bracket where I already grabbed all the rewards I wanted to make your forced point. Even that is not actually bad, because it’s still on a cr that is in a higher percentile than 95-97% of players in solo shuffle.
People have fun with their friends and often play against other groups who do the same, yes. Have fun stomping “noobs in timewalking gear” solo for all I care instead of playing RBGs if that is what you fancy.
Larkus now has 1395 honor levels…The 90th Guards Tank Division at Bryanks is missing a tremendous leader.
I recommend that you put it on ignore. It is impossible to reason with these kind of “people” (If they can be treated like humans), all they do is repeat themselves over and over again and in the end it ends like Groundhog Day, while in the game they do exactly the opposite of what they promote on the forum.