When is Blizzard going to address this issue? Literally every WSG in sod I have to play vs a 10 man premade from Livingflame or Lone wolf or other no lifers.
If you queue as a premade you should only be allowed to play vs other premades. I also don’t care if horde vs horde or alliance vs alliance plays vs each other as long as I don’t get these unbalanced games anymore. Blizzard ruined the BG experience, and I don’t understand why nobody seems to care about this. Lost every single game vs every premade. And don’t suggest to join a premade as well because sometimes you just wanna queue up solo or with 1-2 guildies. Both left the BG yesterday because it’s not enjoyable to get stomped every game.
The whole winrate is a joke by now. Especially with all the premades AND tons of leavers in the bgs, the moment players think it will be a lost fight. Just remove the winrate completely.
I understand them, tbh. So many games where half the the raid is afk or in Pandaria level gear and/or leaves after first lost fight. Offsetting this by queueing with people that actually want to play the game and do objectives sounds perfectly reasonable to me. First I usually got mad at premades but after a long time solo queuing I understand why they do it.
Indeed, It’s better to cheat to make people leave before the match even starts…
Also when premades lose the first fight they also mass leave and guarantee a loss for the rest. So no difference there… If it’s premade vs premade they leave. as its not about “queuing with people who actually want to play” It’s about farming numbers with zero challenge 24/7
How exactly is queueing at the same “cheating”? What about my other points, besides the leaving part? I don’t play in premades and I would probably not enjoy it, but I understand why they do it.
They cheat because they actively avoid fighting on equal terms. Horde sync premades leave if they are facing ally premades. Horde sync premades need 3 full groups but they will only fight random casuals. They also fight in regular bgs with synced groups, instead of doing rated (see Twitch for example). They avoid game modes available to them and instead bypass restrictions by sync joining.
They lie by mass reporting anyone not agreeing with them. Reporting for “language” which is a pure lie.
As for the newcomers currently invading horde, I agree with you. I have never seen so many do so little damage. Hopefully some of them will turn to pve and those that are really interested will learn. We need newcomers to bring down queue times. Some of them just need detailed instructions. As an example, one dude asked “where?” after someone said “kill glaives” in raid chat in IoC. Ofc you cannot know “where” if first time there, it’s not shown on map unless you are close. So, try to educate them!
What exactly are equal terms? So is it cheating if players play meta classes? is it cheating if I use consumables? Where does “cheating” start exactly?
All the rated game modes are made so that it will be on equal terms. If you don’t understand that 3 full groups picking fights only with ppl that are not 3 full groups, are seeking fights that are “not on equal terms”, I think there is nothing more to discuss.
So 5 man groups should be banned in general, or only matched against other 5 man groups? What about leaders that solo queue? They should not be allowed to that as well, right? Or is that not enough unequality? That’s what I am asking. At what point does it become unequal and at what point does unequal, become “cheating”? I mean anybody can join these groups/communities or make their own. I genuinely don’t get it. What about rating? Should the average rating of groups also be taken into consideration? I mean if you want equal terms then I think it should. We just invented rated bgs I think. Or the new blitz.
I have never asked for a ban. I have always proposed that Blizz should let any employed programmer break the sync, it would only take a couple of hours.
I always solo queue and I always lead if needed. Sometimes I’m given raid lead but I don’t need it. What’s your point exactly?
I repeat:
I love how a pro-sync-premade player (prolly troll) keeps this anti-premade thread hot. And I love the opportunity to repeat my standpoints.
Must go to bed. Let’s continue this interesting discussion tomorrow.
