Account-Wide mounts and cross-faction mounts?

Probably Blizzard will implement in WOTLK the account-mound system they have in Retail since Cataclysm.

That means mounts will be cross-faction.

If the mount is available for players in both factions you will simply have the mount in all your characters.
If the mount is exclusive to one faction you will have that mount in that faction and the equivalent mount in the other faction, for example, a Human Horse for Alliance is an Orc Wolf for Horde.

My characters farmed the mounts. My days of being a super hardcore RPer are long over, but there are baselines that still remain.

But it’s not really about being in character, it’s about the nature of an RPG and about each alt being unique and having their own unique journey. If I make an alt I want that alt to be independent from the other alts.

Gathering the materials, experience points, reputation, items, gold and mounts is part of that alt’s unique journey. Just homogenising the entire thing and giving it all away for free completely defeats the objective - for me anyway. And yes I know I’m a strange, singular weirdo who thinks differently from 99% of other players all of who just want fast, easy, super-convenient instant access to everything in the game - but once again this is because I view WoW and games like it as RPGs, and believe in the principals of ‘journey before destination’ and ‘effort vs reward’.

More importantly I believe these things defeat the entire purpose of having a Classic client. What’s the point unless you’re going to keep it the same as the original? Otherwise what do people get out of Classic that they can’t get out of retail?

Account-wide items is very much retail thinking, it is not Classic thinking.

The legendary example was not intended to be realistic, it was simply an analogy created to indicate similarity of mindset.

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The only thing you put out is that you don’t want QoL changes because you yearn for a game that faded out some 16 years ago.
This is modern gaming, accept it and relax.

Thank you. At least we are two.

Now I logges on Wrath. Deleted all alts only leaving a bank alt.
The end - No shared ach and mounts, as it has none.

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I understand that, and in most ways it still is.

All still very much character bound. Well all except gold which you can send to an alt. You can argue the moment you send gold to an alt you embrace the retail mindset, if I follow your reasoning. Don’t tell me you never sent a single item to an alt?

Is the only thing tangible (achiev points are useless and I don’t count those) that is account bound, with good reason like I explained in my pev post.
I still understand your view, but there’s stuff in your reasoning that’s just not true, like:

Again this is just not true at all! A lot of mounts I farmed took me years and trust me the ones that I earned and are account bound are far from super fast instant gratification.
Some meta achievements were not easy (solo or in group) so I consider those as well- earned.

This I agree with you, but like I said the game is so far gone at this stage they might as well add this QoL thing that people can enjoy, well 99% of those like you say :slight_smile:

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Don’t be absurd. The entire point of having a Classic client is to play a game that ‘faded out 16 years ago’, as you put it. It’s not ‘modern gaming’.

If you want ‘modern gaming’ get yourself to retail. It’s there waiting for you and has everything you need.

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Sending gold to alts is something I rarely do as I like each to stand on their own, but you’re right I could do that if I chose.

But there are degrees. Mailing gold to an alt is not in the same league as implementing a blatant retail feature like account-wide mounts and achievements. Trespassing onto farmland and armed robbery are both crimes, but the former is far more socially acceptable.

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I think you are skipping over the part where you complain constantly about current wrath and its additions.

I just watched a lvl 30 riding a dragon through darnassus while having a 50% xp boost, buying stuff on AH with gold from a WoW token.
He’s letting his 70 boosted char get rested xp and he’s going to layer hop for his quests/resource farming.
Next phase it won’t be a dragon it’ll be invincible’s reigns and he’ll have a nifty title too.

It ain’t the wrath you want it to be or think it is :slight_smile:

And u think thats a good thing do u? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I’ve spent a good portion of all my free time over half a year in 2020 farming my Winterspring Frostsaber on Nicolay. I find it personally insulting that you put me in the cathegory of people who want “fast, easy, super-convenient instant access to everything” just because I don’t mind having an access to it on my alts three years later.
Frankly, I don’t even care what my alts ride, they aren’t Nicolay of Brightwood, senior Enchanter of Dalaran and appointed Tribune to the Magically Challenged citizens. They are just alts. Nobodies. I literally have just the default race mount on each of them. I am just happy I can now fly my tailoring carpet at 310% speed instead of one of my 5 butt-ugly bat-dragon monstrosities i EARNED in Wrath.

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Good or bad, it is the way the game is now.

Don’t take it personally, it was a sweeping statement.

But it does seem to me that the majority do want fast, easy, super-convenience. There was hardly any pushback on the forums over boosts, WoW tokens, account-wide stuff and all the rest. Most people either accepted it or actively embraced it.

All in all it just goes to prove that the infamous ‘you think you do but you don’t’ statement was 100% correct - though the poor guy got lambasted for it at the time. But he was just predicting precisely what would happen.

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And here you are defending it, even to the extent of concluding that WoW Classic should be a ‘modern game’ not a reproduction of a retro game.

I defend nothing, I am merely saying red is red and blue is blue.

There was massive, loud pushback for years, Blizz just didn’t care.

It’s hard to rail against it when buying from 3rd party sites was silently tolarated for 3 years, and also people still protested it. Just not very much, since you basically could buy gold safely in classic since release anyway with close to 0 chance of consequence.

Unlike the other two, it is considered a generally good QoL by the majority. I hate boosts and I despise gold buying with passion, yet I have no strong feelings about account-wide mounts at all.

This. The pushback was both on forums and ingame. That’s why they gutted the /spit emote.

There was some pushback against the level boost, but it wasn’t huge, and was largely located to just a small handful of threads with a few arguing that levelling was important and that retail features had no place in the game, and others railing against the opposition, claiming that being able to skip 90% of the game’s content was the best thing since sliced bread and spelled pure perfection for the classic client.

But it never really amounted to anything, a small handful of people quit, the rest just ended up gritting their teeth and putting up with it. A few boosters were spat at in the open world, a couple of content creators such as the wonderful Mad Season Show quit, and that was the extent of it.

I suspect that the /spit removal had nothing to do with the above and far more to do with the “cleaning up” of WoW features deemed to be “family unfriendly” or sexist - and came as a direct result of the California law suit. These changes were almost all the work of savvy Californian lawyers who urged the devs to make visible efforts to detoxify their image in lieu of court proceedings.

Real pushback is what happened back in the time when Blizzard announced that everyone’s real names were to be made visible on the forums. The pushback was successful and resulted in Blizzard backtracking on the decision.

When mount appeared in the game, there was crazy spitting from many players at everyone with that mount. At least on my server, it was pretty clear what many players thought about that. Spit spam was everywhere where mounts appeared. Shortly after they added mounts, /spit was removed from the game. I think it was directly because of it.
Sadly, I think we have to face the truth. Blizzard picked which kind of player he wanted to cater to. It will get worse with every patch. People who saw where it was heading left already or just will wait till the end of WOTLK. That’s why there is no anger, like there was before. The game will “slowly” turn into another retail. For some kind of player it will be good, but not for me. We will have to look for new homes again. Finally, some homes with opposite factions. It was inevitable.

I honestly saw very little of it - actually truth be told I saw none of it. I can honestly never saw one single boosty boy being spat at as he rode past on his stupid Boostalker mount. Personally I used to just /giggle at them.

But then again I’m not playing on one of those huge megaservers, so perhaps it was more common on those? Either way I’d still be very, very surprised if this was what contributed to Blizzard removing the /spit emote.

There was a weakaura that made you automatically spit on any player riding on the boost mount when you tergetted them, which probably accounted for most of the spitting. Trends like that might not be as common on small servers.