We need account wide Reps and Tokens. I understand current content currencies may be hard to do due to progression so that would possibly be an exclusion. But there is no reason for reps to not be account wide across all xpacs the only small issue I can find is vendor gear at the start of a patch/xpac which could result in alts getting some quick gear which ain’t really a bad thing. To stop people farming dailies/quests/events for max rep maybe make them give rep once? Or introduce a daily rep cap? I genuinely don’t see any downside to making this happen. It would make things a lot more alt friendly too which we all want.
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Some of us have been beating that drum for over a decade now but who know, maybe we’ll eventually get more account wide stuff. They seem to be much more willing to listen and implement stuff that we ask for as of late.
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Rep with the 100-200% increase on alts already make it really fast which is good.
I don’t think there will ever be true account wide reputations. Why? Because people would intentionally create 10 alts and quest them through the hubs just to stack up reputation as much as possible. This was already a thing with Loamm. People sent the 2500 rep token (which was account bound) over to their mains and were basically like renown 15 first couple days. They could make it that only one character gets the reputation first time it gets completed though.
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This is why I suggest some kind of system so you can only receive the rep reward once. E.g dailies only give rep once per day. Then this wouldn’t be a problem. Blizzard have the tech and workforce to implement this quite easily.
Blizzard already timegates everything through reputation gains, just put an actual timegate on it then. So instead of these boots unlocking at reputation level 7 that you will have on day 5 make it so that the boots just unlock to all of your character on day 5 from the reputation vendor. I mean degens are going to degen anyways so playing around them is just so pointless.
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Easiest way to stop exploits would be you only have account wide rep once exalted. That way you have done the grind(s) but your alts can now benefit.
That I think would be the best for everyone.
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That’s a possibility but then once again you’re limited to doing content on 1 character. Like I said previously I believe the best way to go about this is make any reputation gain a 1 time reward so it doesn’t matter what you play.
For legacy reps I think every quartermaster should have commendation letters for sale. Something like 1,000g for Honoured, 5,000g for Revered and 10,000g for Exalted.
This would let alts buy recipes and mogs in older legacy factions and add as a gold sink. It leaves open the possibility of player grinding a rep if they wish to (some players prefer their alts as individual characters).
I think we have too many reps with too much rep involved. They gate too many things. A faction used to have some intro quests that yould get you at least friendly and some even honoured and then you did dailies up to exalted which from Honoured to Exalted is 33,000. Currently we have 30 levels of Renown which are 2,500 rep. This is 75,000 rep. Most of which comes from weekly events.
Reps used to be fewer, optional and quicker.
You can still do content on an alt you just don’t get rep. It’s doesn’t limit play time or stories or even play styles. It merely stops you being gated on alts for something you have already taken the time to do in game
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You really don’t see any problems with account-bound reputation for factions like Bloodsail Buccaners, Steamwheedle Cartel, Aldor, Scryers, Frenzyhearth Tribe, and Oracles???
This is why people like you shouldn’t be eligible to vote, you think one fits all while in reality exceptions and nuanced solutions must be in place to maintain function and efficiency.
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I take it you play every day then.
Are you aware of the fact that a lot of players play very irregular due to real life duties? This would screw them over so hard that they would never be able to have usefull play sessions.
Some of you might be finishing multiple tasks every day, like some kind of daily list you tick off. Others throw in 30 minutes that day, then 2 hours 2 weeks later, etc. Locking too many things behind timegates makes it very hard for other players than those who play very regulary, to get anything done.
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There are many solutions for having account reputation with those reputations, and anyway, all of them are more than 10 years outdated. Even Blizzard could make account reputations and ignore those just like they ignored every outdated dungeon and raid with faction differences to make cross-faction instances.
That is only assuming such a measure is being made. Never ever take assumptions as granted, especially not in regards to Blizzard.
And? Let’s say I wanna do that. Is it your business?
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Even if they don’t is easy to assume that if it is not worth it for them to take special measures for those factions, they will take the lazy approach and exclude them from any hypothetical account reputation system, just like they did with dungeons and cross-faction. My point is that is outdated, irrelevant content, so if, with hundred of factions, your only problem are a decade old 6 factions, then your problem isn’t real.
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Your argument is then about why those factions shouldn’t be bothered with. Which for Blizzard means they will not bother to exclude the factions from being account-wide. Thus we get players who will lose all their hard earned reputation with Bloodsail Buccaneers, and any other factions which characters from a RP standpoint prefer to be exalted with.
Just because you don’t care about legacy content doesn’t means that none does. Have some respect for the content that once was current, but now is a window to the past with it’s perks and features.
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Why would anyone lose their factions? Because you made your own awful idea of account reputations with the only purpose of making it look bad? Sorry, Blizzard won’t ever make real your account reputation proposal. Don’t you think that the fact that no one like your idea, not even you, is enough to believe Blizzard won’t ever consider it? If you expect me to accept your bad idea about account reputations as mine and defend it in your name, you are wrong. I agree with you that your account reputation idea is wrong, so I will always try to raise my opinion loader than you so Blizzard doesn’t listen to you and implement your idea. This is easy, given that even you, the author, is against his own idea.
And now you lie about what I don’t care. I care about legacy content, and that is why I could come up with dozens of solutions to your problem that fix it while keeping legacy content intact. So, I insist that you don’t lie about what I care about and what I don’t care about. You have not even taken the courtesy to ask me what my proposal would be before jumping into lying about me.
Just because I say that Blizzard won’t care, which is a fact, those not mean I don’t care. I still insist Blizzard could take the lazy approach of keeping those reputations unchanged, excluding them for account reputations, keeping them as character reputations, exactly as what they are right now. What could be more legacy than leaving things unchanged?
Something that has been asked for many times. I really hope they do it at some point. The daily reputation cap is actually a decent idea also to stop people just farming it over and over again on all their alts daily.
It’s kinda crazy that we’ve got cross faction before account wide reputation actually.
I think reputations have the same problem as all other barriers that have been broken lately, like realms and factions, they are intrinsic to the core of the game, so it is not easy to change them.
Reputations are used for more things like the ones we see in our reputation bar; there are hundreds of factions internally in the game for other things.
It is so deep in how the game works that the easiest thing will be to keep the character’s reputation and make a new account reputation system on top of it, which is similar to how renown works.
Something easy will be to have the account reputation for a given faction be equal to the character reputation with a higher value for that faction. Or making the account reputation only reach the highest range of all your characters, or even only unlocking the account reputation once one character is exalted.
That means to earn an exalted reputation with the account, you must earn an exalted reputation with one character, and having more characters won’t make it easy. Then they could use the account reputation to access unlocked quests and rewards.
If we add the restriction to require the character to be neutral or friendly before enabling the account reputation, it solves those 6 opposite factions because you could have exalted with Aldor and Scryers at the same time with your account, but you can’t be friendly at the same time with any given character.
Personally, I would love it if they allow unlocking account exalted at the same time with both opposing factions after earning exalted with both in one character, so it works as some form of reward for Hero of Shatrath achievement or for earning exalted with Buccaneers and Goblins at the same time. But I don’t think Blizzard will do this for legacy content.
The only way leaving exceptions unchanged becomes the lazy option is if this change is done manually on a per-faction basis. Which again is a hopeful assumption. For all we know Blizzard would rather make a script that makes all factions account-bound in one go, and in this scenario will not making any exceptions be the lazy option.