Actual PvP servers?

None mega server has PvP in it ? Most of them are empty and will continue to squish, please combine some pvp realms or make it like Classic era - PvP cluster realms to be visible, it’'s boring to be in PvP server, while it is like single player faction only.

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Would be fun if we merged firemaw and gehennas together:O

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Blizzard have zero ambition to merge servers.
The opening of realm transfers rather than merges was by design to force people to pay.
“Pretending” they didn’t foresee loopholes to transfer from Golemag to Gehennas was by design to force more paid transfers. Opening Firemaw to Gehennas was by design to force faction change, and not to “help people transfer their alts”.

They only see the realm status as a way to make extra income and have no reason or ambition to change them - they just blame the players for doing what they wanted them to do, as most were in unfortunate circumstances without their friends etc.

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In theory, yes, but in practice it’d just mean that 50% of the realm’s population would paid transfer somewhere else or faction change. Really sad when you think about it.

In my own, hypothetical, scenario blizzard wont allow paid faction transfers (we both know it would never happen ofc). So they are forced to play on the server, the game would prob die out though i reckon.

But man, how amazing week it would be!:smiley:

It is sad… The best expansion few very nicely populated servers which are PvP, yet none pvp activities. I mean so many servers are on low/ medium… I started when realm Thekal was new… it had 30k people ques, was amazing at start niw it died… most of the people spread to Firemaw, Gehennas and Earthshaker and now Earthshaker is canceling as well. It is unbelieveble how there isn’t a good 50/50 or at least 30/70 PvP server, only the russian one has quite decent ratio, but sadly I don’t understand russian.
@Blizzard new patch is coming and take this into consideration, either way you will get your money. Damn character transfers - they are exciting only after for a week. After that usually the player gets off. Thank you in advance.

I wanted to transfer to Thekal to keep him alive but they didn’t open it until it was dead. They even opened transfers away before transfers there, to make sure it will die.

Sadly Thekal will just be remembered as brief nostalgic startup. We got 5 IRL friends, with jobs and families and had a blast. Now the “pvp” servers are pathetic, pve realms are quite empty.

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You must play on a server where your faction is dead in order to get world pvp

Firemaw would die out pretty much immediately and people would mass transfer to earthshaker. It would take like 4-5 weeks and the pool would be single faction again.

Yeah, but imagine the action and fun we would have for the first week!:smiley:

Well, in my little scenario Earthshaker would be next for the merger. Until we just have 1 server for pvp, 1 for pve

people would leave en-mass ofc and all the pve’ers would cry about being on a pvp server.
But thats a sacrifice im willing to make.

thankfully you don’t decide game policy, heh?

World pvp is interesting for some people in theory until it actually happens, then it’s just annoying griefing. The only people who really like it are griefers, which, yikes.

Good thing nothing you suggest will ever happen :slight_smile:

I feel like i could do mad work as a dev :thinking:

If you dont like world pvp, then you dont join a pvp server. That is the easiest choice you could ever do. You dont come off as someone who like pvp at all, which is fine, but WHY would you then choose a pvp server and COMPLAIN ABOUT PVP when it happens? (not saying YOU spesifically chose pvp server, but you get the idea)

People who like world pvp are griefers? Thats a bold statement.

But i can also throw out random statements, people who only do pve are dull and have the adaptive skills of a potato:)

Were you ever worried?
This game has catered to the pve community for YEARS, they wont suddenly change:P

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Maybe that’s a little hint. Pvp has always been a meme in wow. I get that removing it entirely would be unnecessary because it doesn’t really affect pve players these days, but if you ever thought that pvp was anything but a neglected afterthought in wow, you were on some excellent copium.

Nah, not always. Some of the early esport events had more pvp than pve.

I have already written a topic about this 2-3 times.
It’s interesting that the commenters who want to convince you that there is no World PVP because it doesn’t need to be and that’s fine xD are not here yet.
The whole problem starts from the fact that a bunch of monkeys who can’t stand the fact that sometimes they will be killed on a PVP servers want to play on a PVP servers,
and they think it’s good if the PVP server becomes a PVE server, since there are no enemy players… Wouldn’t it be simpler and more logical if these people played on a PVE server instead?
Unfortunately, blizzard is not interested in this matter, because the aforementioned PVE monkey gang does not speak out against it, because it is very good for them.

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If pvp is a mame and ppl dont need it then why they chose a pvp realm to ruin it?
Simple enough question isnt it? Maybe you are right, maybe its a mame.
But if blizzard still adheres to the “blizzlike” principles, then there would be PVP on the pvp server, let’s say bots would also be banned then, as they did in the past, but it’s true that even that is allowed nowadays.
So blizzard, or rather ACTIVISION, does not deal with anything, just to make money.

They changed a lot of things, it could easily be cross realm pvp and warmode on/off for those who don’t want to PVP. and everyone would be fine.
Do you think that would be a huge thing to ask for?

Do you think the right solution is that since some people don’t need World pvp, the whole PVP realm concept goes away? Think logically please.

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I mean yeah, classic is a cash cow to milk easy money from nostalgic rubes. Just like wow in general is a cash cow.

Not particularly, but pvp is a meme and the pvp community is tiny. Classic has like 3 people working on it. No way they would commit the resources to do that.

I think none of you people matter enough to make blizzard move, because pvp is and always has been a meme.

People originally went to pvp servers because in 2019 classic you could not transfer from a pve server to a pvp server, but it was possible vice versa. Being on a well populated server is essential to having a decent pve experience, so anything that means the maximum freedom to maintain that is mandatory.

Once phase 2 happened people quickly realized that while being on a large server is nice, actual world pvp sucks, a lot. So they started to sort into horde only and alliance only realms. It’s been like this ever since.

You are right that we EU players do not matter to them, however, I’m sure that the US grobbulous realm was able to settle nicely on 50/50% because there were people bombarding them with similar topics and US forums are more important.
The russian realm is more like 40/60% but they are russians, they are more PvP oriented players i guess they could mange it for themselfs +they have only 2 realms xD.

So, why are european players money/needs worth less than americans?
I’m not saying they should do it on all servers, but I’m sure they could do it in at least one EU english realm with targeted free realm transfers, or by merging two smaller servers such as earthshaker and mograine.

With normal communication, a realm should be designated as an ultimate PVP server, and I think there would be many people who would be interested, those who are not interested can avoid it, or give them a chance to leave the given server with a free transfer if they have played there so far.

There would be a solution, they just have to want it.
But without people making more topics about it on the forum, we certainly won’t get anything.

PvP is a mame? The whole classic is a mame.