On AD itself I notice that every other conversation on Trade for the past week has just been… so toxic. So much political crap all over public channels and even in my RDF groups lately.
What are your worst experiences with toxicity in Argent Dawn either recently or in the past year or so?
Someone screeching about people breaking the armistice in general chat and /say and /yell in Loch Modan when some Horde and Alliance guilds hosted a RP-PvP event, followed by them changing their TRP to something akin to and parroting their opinion again
Then I made a thread about how war is good and I felt better
That’s pretty surprising, all I see in Alliance trade chat for the past couple weeks has been edgy political discussion and really toxic, volatile behaviour.
Most of us have the trade channel on almost permanent mute for that very reason. I’ve encountered enough bigoted bullies without opting into one of their most active hangout spots.
To answer the question, though, is difficult. Online communities come with a certain insulation from tangible, real world consequences for bad behaviour, so toxicity effectively becomes the unfortunate reality of spending time in an online space.
Transphobia, homophobia, racism, misogyny. These and more are all regular features if you’re not very careful about where you spend your time, even in the RP community. Then there’s elitism, purposefully disruptive players, and so on.
I think generally the server is a lot less toxic now than it was in previous years. You’ll still have people saying awful things and doing awful things - AD is unfortunately large enough that some behaviours are just going to slip under the radar - but I think most people who were toxic and genuinely vile have either mellowed out, or left the game.
That being said - yeah, bad things have happened and I’m not going to deny them or downplay them.
That also being said - trade/general chat isn’t just bad on Argent Dawn, it’s bad everywhere. It’s a psudeo-anonymous real time message board full of bad actors who want to bait reactions, or genuinely delusional people who actually wholeheartedly believe the conspiracy theory slop they put out on a daily basis. It really is best used to pop in now and again and ask “where’s this quest/item?” or “have Blizz patched (x) yet?” because it’s quicker than going onto WoWhead and you don’t have to sift through potentially irrelevant articles.
Also sorry for going a little off-topic. I have a few toxic experiences on AD because I think almost everyone who’s been around for a few years does, but honestly none of them I think are worth mentioning, not for me at least.
I think the most toxic players have either been pacified or isolated by the community, or have left the game years ago. Toxicity only gets you that far, after all.
That said, I don’t really see the point of these negative threads. They don’t add anything meaningful to the server or the RP community.
it is a lot more empty, and toxicity happens less by that, though if you decide to get close to most small hubs tends to be toxic in a way where they praise their deity rp leader oocly x) if you count that as toxic/bad experience
Do Dracthyr chain smoking in Stormwind count? If not then nothing lately, but then I’m also not really involved in RP at present.
Previously though? The whole BFA thing. Not the expansion, the guilds that decided to fight each other during it.
Whilst 80% of the stories from that era are hyperbole or made up, it does unfortunately leave the 20% that aren’t.
Otherwise the usual trade chat/general chat nonsense. Homophobic rants, transphobic rants, trolling etc.
After I won the 300k gold PCU 1v1 duel tourney in BFA and refused to both donate the money back to them AND to join one of their guilds they started making up about me.
Trade chat is a nonsense generator on all servers, not just Argent Dawn.
Now if you want to discuss mass Discord bans to punish a few bad apples, abusers running round communities, kneejerk accusations, predjudice over what race you play, death threats flying around and some community leaders who power trip and inflict the above and more on the server population then yeah, Argent Dawn is pretty toxic at times.
I’ve not seen any serious criticism of this PCU thing that wasn’t either very vague “meany poopyheads who ruin all RP” or that tumblr blog’s unhinged ravings. Only the one extreme or the other.
Running cover for the likes of Morsteth and Stormbinder, unhinged individuals with the latter threatening to r-word a women and the former believing in lovely myths such as the “Clean Wehrmacht”
Trying to not-so-subtly barge into other RP communities only to throw hissy fits when things don’t go their way
Mandatory logging of guild numbers in the discord officer chat (very cringe but that’s about it, more minor than anything else)
Just a pretty funny and weird group all around and basically dead ever since a bunch of them moved to a custom NwN server (if I were a schizo blogger I’d call it the Great Schism)
An obsessive individual dragging on an 8+year vendetta, I’ve been called all names under the sun and he tried (unsuccessfully) to label me as a edited by moderator
pretty much all criticism had to do with the people who were at the top, the idea and aim of the community itself wasn’t inherently bad (the very cringe and completely unnecessary “branding” aside) and it brought some pretty cool roleplay to the server, even if it was a bit hit or miss too in terms of quality (i would argue that the rp-pvp campaigns quickly turned rather samey and low effort towards the end)
their satanic, evil status was drummed up by both sides i’d argue, they’re really not nearly as bad as some other groups i had the “pleasure” of interacting with on this server and I think that a good number of their members were new roleplayers who were simply oblivious to the nature of the people that managed the community and simply wanted to join a cool rp guild that they liked
the kinds of people who in turn demonised those roleplayers and refused to interact with them just because they had a guild tag they didn’t like, in my humble opinion shouldn’t be on this server at all because adding oil to the fire of this kind of dumb tribalism is a good example of some of the worst toxicity this server has seen