Add and remove stuff for ICC

personal loot would be cool

Harder raids did the trick in retail. The moment you can’t bring goldbuyers to the raid, gdkps die out pretty fast

And replace it with boost runs like we had on retail for years. Great improvement.

In retail currently its much more lucrative since you can do the raid multiple times and boost as many people as your time allows. (since lockout doesn’t prevent you from running the raid, only from being eligible for loot)

Also, for your first run where you are eligible for loot, you can stack people with the item type of the boostie and trade. Restricting this trade would make funnelling gear impossible.

You would only be buying the run and not the gear. For anyone who can run the raid, there is no point in paying for a boost.

So? Do you think the naked buyers we currently have wont just buy it in the future? Not to mention, the difficulty increase of icc is massive, lots of people wont be able to down 25 lk hc.

Also, wrath was never designed with personal loot in mind. Different armor class items are bis for many specs, can you still recieve those? If yes, the pool of items you get would be absurdly big and either the chance of you getting the item you actually want is insanely low, or you just hand out loot like crazy.

You get 3 items per boss for 25 people, so keeping up the same odds its a 8.33% chance to get a randomly assigned item per boss. Lets take a boomkin on Rotface as an example. Of the items the boss drops, there are 4 possible drops that your spec could use. This translates to the average guy taking around 50 ids to get a specific item (heavily simplified math, but its pretty close), that no one else in the raid might want.

Do you really think that sounds like it would be beneficial to the game?

Yes, but mainly those buying a boost would be buying gold.

You could not increase your odds of getting loot, there is far less incentive to buying gold.

And those people would be buying their raid spot in Gdkps too. Effectively, boosts are possible in both system, personal loot with no trading would eliminate higher odds and funnelling gear.

At least, there is no incentive for people to buy gold to overbid others.

Do you want game integrity or wrath balance. BIS lists would simply change. Each class would wear their armor type and items scoffed at would instead be BIS for some classes.

Maybe manually adjust the drops, although I do think fewer Items would be disenchanted/destroyed since you are forced to wear your armour type.

How exactly does gdkp Hurt integrity of the game?

If I’m filthy rich, I can buy most of my BIS list in 3 Raid IDS. It’s pay to win my guy.

With soul bound personal loot, I would have to buy 4 -5 weeks of boosts and I might be partially BIS.

So, you want to implement an incredibly frustrating system (we had exactly what you proposed in early wod and it was horrible) just to slightly alleviate gold buying. Sounds like like a GameStop trade to me. And what is wrong with gear funneling to begin with.

Wrath balance obviously? I want the game as closely to the original as possible, its bad enough that they added nonsense like hc+ already. Not to mention, we are talking about pve, there is nothing to win here. Boosting in arena is a totally different story.

The problem remains, a shadow priest can only use cloth and still has 4 potential drops. And no, you cant actively chose who gets which item anymore, so the obvious solution of “haste/crit goes to the unholy dk, arp/crit goes to the fury” doesnt work anymore and you get useless/suboptimal items that you cant even trade around in your raid. As mentioned earlier, this was the case in early wod and people hated it.

Its 2023, you are winning if your guilds is speedrunning faster/parsing higher, other people dont care about your purples anymore.

How does that Hurt you? I can play demo lock in guild raid and have prio for everything or in better guild do 5 Splits so everyone has full bis char or i can be guild master and award everything to myself or be friend of guild master or w/e. All of these are same outcome.

Are you jealous of full bis people cos you are unable to get gear or Whats your problem. Honestly if anyone has full gear and I dont then i know its my fault and i wouldnt change the game because of it. Also Its not like other 24 people in raid would be mad cos 1 guy bought everything. Gear makes happy the Guy who bought it, gold makes happy rest of the raid in most cases. Everyone is happy except you who is outside of bubble and has no clue whats going on.

Yes, splits, looting yourself all the gear or buying it with real life currency are equally as cringe.

Personal loot would completely curb stomp all three of those.

If you can’t understand why buying everything in the game with your dads credit card is lame than I cant help you.

It’s stupid that a person clearly less skilled than me can compete with me on logs just cause he’s nearly full BIS and stacking Unholy dk. Without split raids and item funnelling, it’s a level playing field, since you can’t support that many dks.

Oh no, classes have to use suboptimal gear or 10 man gear, how will warriors and dks ever recover.

So gear doesnt matter? Then why is getting gear via rmt a problem in the first place.

And it would also kill all guild progression, just like forced personal loot did back in retail.

Speaking of repeating mistakes, did you guys ever play Runescape back in the good old days? Jagex tried everything within their power to remove botting, so they removed pretty much every way for players to trade with one another. That didn’t go very well.

In the end, Jagex’s attempt to stop gold sellers did more damage to Runescape than the gold sellers ever did, which is exactly what would happen with all of the stupid suggestions posted here.

Every warrior would not be able to acquire the same arp pieces.

Like I said, BIS lists would change.

It’s how you acquire the gear rather the gear in itself.

No, it would simply make it alot harder for split raid guilds and marginally harder for normal guilds.

significantly harder for normal guilds.

You destroy every loot system that isn’t /roll on everything. Imagine we had personal loot right now, who gets shadowmourne? Random shards split across multiple players, great. Cool.

Your suggestion is stupid.

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Shards are not gear. Same as raid mats should not be perso loot. Only gear.

Shadowmourne is already time gated, you can’t really speed that up.

They’re still drops, idiot.

Ad hominem is for small brains.