No, it wouldn’t.
I’d bet my last ‘dollar’ that none of them say ‘Because I can trade with other players’.
No, it wouldn’t.
I’d bet my last ‘dollar’ that none of them say ‘Because I can trade with other players’.
Yes, they haven’t thought enough about it to come to this conclusion, but unironically that is the solution.
Completely destroying the game for people playing with friends and guildies because a few solo players can buy gold and trade that gold for items in raids is going to ‘save’ the game?
Giga brain thoughts right there.
Less focus on loot distribution and/or funneling, more focus on improving mechanics maybe.
If loot is your only insentive I guess you cant raid with your friends anymore.
With completely randomised rewards where you can no longer distribute loot evenly or to those that deserve it.
Get a random piece that garbage for you but bis for somebody else? Wasted loot right there.
Forced personal loot failed in retail. It would fail in Classic too.
This is a vertical progression game. You need loot in order to move on to higher tier content.
Maybe you should play Guild Wars 2 or Elder Scrolls Online.
As I said you can just higher drop rates to cancel out the natural attrition that will occur. Some raids will still be luckier then others but the stream of upgrades for the raid can be offset by a slightly higher drop rate on average.
Right now there are raids that get the tank cloak on anub every second week. There will always be luckier raids, but you can still adjust the drops to account for items going to the wrong people within a reasonable margin.
Nothing you cant adjust in advance, this is not set in stone. You do not have to implement WoD perso loot.
Now you’re just trying to find more solutions to problems that your stupid idea creates instead of correctly dealing with the problem you wanted to initially solve.
You want to get rid of GDKPs. Easy solution: Blizzard moderates their game, cheaper than ruining the game for everybody else and then trying to fix the mess you’ve made.
You’ve just said implement personal loot so that players can’t trade or distribute loot as they so desire.
Pick your lane and stick to it.
Any solution has to be fine tuned. Why does a solution have to be simple to be effective?
WoD did not account for item attrition and resulting slower gearing in ICC.
I’m just saying you do not need to copy-paste WoD perso loot and say ok we are done. Since it needs to be adjusted for ICC.
The not-trading part is not what needs to be changed.
Because your solution doesn’t accomplish the goal it sets out to do.
GDKPs are simply not the reason shaman, druid and paladins want cloth items.
They’re just simply better itemized and that’s all there is to it.
A proper solution to this is either: re-itemize stuff in ICC so the “correct” armor classes have the same stat options or go the Cataclysm route of mastery based on wearing all armor of your class.
GDKPs simply have nothing to do with this subject whatsoever.
If you hate GDKPs that much then argue against them from the harm they cause, not cause of some perceived problem that is completely and utterly unrelated.
Let it go.
Show your logs i’m pretty sure you would parse worse than my 3rd lock where i spent 20k gold in ulduar and togc combined. Or atleast say your best avg or w/e is the right measurement.
I thought ret was better than all of those in ICC with bis gear. At least that’s what people’ve been saying after PTR.
Ret certainly climbs up with Tiny Abomination in a Jar, Shadowmourne and t10 set bonus… But competing with mages?
Do you really think Blizzard would ever allow anybody to compete with mages?
There’s an important bit in that sentence that you’re missing for progression.
You’ve got it all wrong. That’s not what I’m advocating for, you’re misrepresenting my stance. I care about gear funneling, not that classes /specs want items outside of their armor type.
For personal loot to work you would have to restrict it to your armor type or the whole thing becomes too convoluted.
If you are Yzzie on Nethergarde keep then I have to disappoint you. Both my characters are averaging higher.
You did beat me in Ulduar though, but only because my guild would not attempt +0
Why do you think that gear funneling happens when certain items are simply outright better?
Gear funneling happens in retail. Its got nothing to do with wrath gear design inherently.
In a hypothetical where people could only wear their armor type and theres no restrictions on trading there would still be funneling happening.
My stance was that you would have to restrict it to your armor type to even be able to facilitate personal loot, since otherwise it would overcomplicate things for blizzard.
Just imagine blizzard needing to select which items could drop for enhancement with no armor type restriction in place. It would be a nightmare.
With a restricted loot table its more clean cut and you could force WF enhance for instance.
Disclaimer: I am aware that most of the Enhance set is already mail. Any spellpower pieces would still be going to caster and healer though.
Also keep in mind you would not just have to account for BIS pieces but also all loot that could potentially be worn by the spec when not restricting it to armor type.
A blanket armor type restriction is just easier to implement and also does not result in a slippery slope regarding some specs.
Cataclysm “fixes” this without any other systems in place than the mastery system.
No i dont use that Nickname on classic however if i check logs you mentioned i did beat you in ulduar with worst gear ever (with like 1- 252 hardmode items with suboptimal talents) So i think the issue Is not gear in your case.
Someone using gear that sims 1.5 to 2k higher just has to press their buttons to log high.
Its always been the case. Ive known people that were always bad, parsing low 80s in lc sr guilds. As soon as they whaled out in gdkp they were like averaging 10-15 percentiles higher for like the first 10 ids until the playerbase starts to catch up.
I’m not sure what you mean cos well i did logs that Are better than his (had R3 on some ulduar boss even) in guild run where i got close to no hardmode items with like 3 bis items in like 10th uld ID so if He has worse logs its prolly his fault.
Actually logs are kinda rng since bosses are kinda rng (like those circles on council)
I mean ye some people will outgear you however since He mentioned hes not doing splits etc for bis gear then He can’t really cry about not having 100s logs since i doubt even his guild wouldnt let him parse anyway. 99s Are possible even without that tho.
He actually find everything that makes you able to parse cringe and refuses to do it And then He proceeds to cry about not being able to parse.