A thing not having a public beta does not exclude internal testing or even testing of concepts via the use of tools before deployment.
You can also reach out to trusted members of the community to get a decently representative feedback if you arent sure about wether nor not what you see on the dev end of things match the experience of players. That would require very little technical ability and no excessive amount of social skill.
It is indeed a “season of discovery”. Devs f around and but it is the players who find out. Especially from a hunter perspective theres been a lot of frustrating finding out in the past week. I refer you to the opening post about how these changes deprived hunters a large amout of choice that is supposed to keep the game from being as rigid as other itterations.
I suggest you keep enjoying the WotLK experience on your 80 priest and glaze the devs for hostile anti-customer decisions in a different thread.
or maybe you are trash in pvp and cant press CS DS
You can join Hunter Discord and double check how the current state “feels”
Low IQ people here and on reddit keep talking about “dps” and “dmg” (when warriors are top dps in BFD)
When the issue is that Hunter SoD and Hunter ERA atm are the same identical class, just autoshot and let pet do damage.
Meanwhile Warlocks or Ret Pala are completely different and enjoyable even witout begin top dps in pve
So you are telling me that a spec called “Beastmastery” and a rune called Beast Mastery that check notes increases the DMG OUTPUT of the PET
Did exactly what they are meant to be and that is shown in the logs? And you can see that if the pet is gone that hunter dps is below any clothie wand dps?
Why paladin are do dented ?
Or maybe u are just a liar and saw for once a ret in bfd gear “oneshoting” healers in green crap gear and be like “oMG REt iS sO brOKEn OP MAN, BLIZZ PLZ NERF IT”
Are you sure about that?
Hunters are the top DPS up to the 80th Percentile
Warriors only overtake hunter’s at the 99th percentile. I.E, when they have the BFD Weapons, usually the epic specifically.
Meanwhile, down at the 10th percentile Hunter’s dominate. I highlight this bracket because anyone dumb enough to think hunters are bad are probably in the bottom 10% of players in the game.
Man ofc warriors suck at dps coz they are gear dependent, like most melees in game. To do good dmg they need good weapons , thats how they scale.
Or you can type with the proper grammar, we are not in the hood, you can check any pvp videos of ret pala doing the same combo and almost global people, maybe you are just bad man?
There are plenty of guide on wowhead or check savix video on how to proper pv
So you picked “Over 2 Weeks Range” on WLOGS that still has Scorpid Logs that were clearly bugged and skewed the entire data? Also that shows that Warriors and Rogue are doing the same DPS of Hunters during the “bug” hence making Warrior and Rogue DPS similar to a bugged class? Ok lets nerf them too shall we?
Oh look Warriors? Not hunters are top notch? Top 100 BFD DPS there are 18 HUNTERS and half still count the Scorpid pre nerf meanwhile there are like at least 20 Warriors
Also what? https://i.imgur.com/bqtKepN.png Warriors have 30 more points over rogues and hunter on “max” parses?
Well amazing findings Watson 
Which they do for the entire game, meanwhile hunters…ah yes they dont scale.
So if in P1 we have already Naxx TOP DPS Classes, I can only imagine how well balanced things will be for the next phases.
Link me at least 1 video where a ret pala “globals” good geared priest on vid in season of discovery . Its easy to talk crap but can u provide any proov?
First duel with the priest that has epic boots and pvp spec with 1200 HP and he (the ret) isnt even geared that well.
PW:S absorbs for 271 up to 311 with PVP spec and with the boots active he is getting 30% less dmg hence making the shield absorb 404 total dmg before breaking.
The entire combo he throws during the stun makes the shield pops and gets 270 extra crit dmg from swing
So the Pala literally burst 404 dmg in less than 2 sec and from 1200 hp he went down to 800ish so after the shield the priest took at least 300 dmg
So 400 dmg absorbed (during a 30% DR) + 300 dmg
With virtually no crits not avg shield cheese for a total of 700DMG on top of 1200HP through absorbs and DR
No ret are fine dude, just ask savix to coach you
This is not killing healers in 1 global m8
Killing in 1 global means literally a oneshot
Killing and chasing priest 99999 min duel is not oneshoting obviously
You take issue with my picking over the last 2 weeks (incidentally that’s just how long the game has been out) because this allegedly skews the data, but then limit your rebuttal to the top 100 parses.
Because the top 100 parses are representative of the damage as whole, i suppose?
Amusing concept but even a cursory look into the data will dismantle any rebuttal you are attempting to make.
If you actually look into the top results you’ll notice the warriors’s all have “Ancient Corrosive Poison” as part of their breakdown. You have to go to the 24th parse before you won’t see this. “Ancient Corrosive Poison” is the debuff from the epic sword. The Only Epic weapon for physical damage dealers. Ergo, warriors beat hunters, when and only when, they have a flat out better weapon than the hunter.
As for assertion that post-scorpid-nerf hunter’s will be weaker, the highest parse for a hunter without a scorpid pet is 19th. This is 5 parses higher than the first warrior without an epic weapon. If you bother to go through the data you’ll see it’s more common for a hunter to be higher even without a scorpid than it is for a warrior to be higher without an epic weapon.
This tells us that Hunters > Warriors unless the warrior has better gear, and even then it’s a coinflip that favours hunters slightly.
Using data to support your arguements is good. But you actually have to look at the data in order to come to a logical conclusion. Using data to support whatever answer you want to see will invariably bite you when someone actually looks into what you are asserting, if what you are saying isn’t actually supporting by the data you are providing. Just FYI.
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the top 100 contains all the recent logs and if the top hunter are still the “bugged” one while warrior and rogue are rampants, that is pretty indicative of the situation.
warrior and rogue already scale hard on par with a “bugged” pet
they requires a nerf
also you talk about “epic” gear while ignoring windfury and spell that scales with weapon
