Addons make ppl dumb

DBM is mandatory for a reason… it’s there so you can see what will happen next, and in how much time so you can react properly.

But the other addons are just as great for giving you QoL improvements, especially the classic game versions. Say, why run all the way back to Orgrimmar only to train a weak Raptor Strike rank when you can see it from an addon on the go? Or you likely won’t spot important dispels without Zperl or an Elvui.

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maybe but if overused they trun of people brain and they stop to use it and act like programed npc

Yes, the default UI. You know… This abomination?

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Sorry to break the news to you, Tiannali, but raids are now designed around addons like DBM and to a degree WA. And before you start on me, no i do not raid - its just not my thing

This is an incredibly silly thing to say when literally every single top player uses addons for the game. If playing without them would be better one would think that there would be Mythic raid teams out there with no addon runs.

Also not be rude but as I understand it you don’t use addons right? If so then how come you are getting carried through the raid and not carrying with those amazing no addon skills of yours? I mean you have 2 good hc logs in the entire raid.

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well actualy that why this raids geting worse also reward for them is slowly geting not worth time its like more pain than its worth it

honest blziard could remove raids coz more you get from doing mythic +

and its more easy do something with 5 ppl group than big 20 ppl raid

Would be fun to watch the next raid world first, without using dbm or weakauras. Imagine all the pros fail like noobs.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WdnFZtqgTrAcvm9j#fight=32&type=damage-done

I’m guessing you used addons?

Madorin has hit the nail on the head right there

if you look at dps then just dont talk pls coz ppl like you are problems in raids maybe i dont have good dps stats in moust fights but its coz many times i need focus on doing things other people should.

and if you ego with dps you never be good player sometimes you need think way for team not for your scores like sacryfice for team take something that would kill entire raid if soakd at some moment or save tank by taunt and take hard hit on you if other tank fail and there is no rez

I had to get addon or my first guild would not allow me to join their raidteam but it took me almost 6 month before I stared using addon

I would actually watch a world first race if tthe top guilds actually done a raid without addons

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Most guilds or groups is not going to invite someone with bad logs.

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honest that page is buged in my opinnion coz it did not update some bosses and keeped only old ones

i use only one addon to see my DPS true i lose on sylvana DPS but its because i was doing that time arrows and was low item and actualy if you can see dont have yet even the bonus set for raid what realy improve dps for raids

What other things are you focusing on in a boss like guardian? Even in the fatescribe kill you only got runes twice, there are people with 4 runes doing way more dmg than you.

Sorry but as a dps your role is to literaly do as much damage as possible while doing mechanics. Might sound crazy but you can actually do both at the same time. A great help there is having addons to know when to properly use cds as to not use them during a mechanic. Some specs need to time their burst 20+ seconds in advance.

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all Depend on class and all actualy i play Fae warrior so its depend on what tanks will do if they for example move boss or no but true is some logs are old and not showing the dps i do right now i was checking date of some bosses and it still have date of raiding from month ago even if i dont this month all hc bosses

you can not belive me but that site actualy is bad and buged many times

What’s bugged about warcraftlogs?

This just sounds like people used an addon/wa to assign fatescribe runes, but because you didn’t use it you just did someone else’s which caused confusion and lead to a wipe. Or something like that :man_shrugging:

But it’s not your fault it’s everyone else obviously.

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That’s not warcraftlogs being bad or bugged, you just don’t have anyone logging your fights so of course they don’t show up.

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