Addons make ppl dumb

I want make people understund that using all time DBM or other addons that are like that make people realy dumb. Why coz they stop think for them self they auto folow all things, i can see it many times in raids where people folow addon but dont think for them selfs they dont bother to even think to do something other if sytuation change, example i can say is fate scribe ppl folow addon and keep to it like bots not think that other rune can be done if someone took they.

I personaly thing this addons are not need to be good, even more i think play without them make you play better coz you focus better and need to use more your brain.

  1. every encounter you almoust get info from boss about his skills
  2. you can easy see moust time what boss cast or what debuff you got

So if ppl are bad no addon will help them even oposite it will make it worst coz they will never learn or improve because they will folow like robots all addon things and never can be ready for many things that can change in raid fight.

I i know many will say that addons help a lot but ppl should first learn play without them to not become tunel vision noobs

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i know its each to their own but having started playing wow without addons…i appreciate them even more now that i use them. to me they are a godsend.

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why do you think people dont want to remove them … will prove lack of ability.
Move on, ineptitude is contagious

hones no addon will help ppl get better it make worse espesly with every new boss ideas blizard have that kind of addons dont work anymore they make things even worse you can see it on boss like fatescribe or sylvana

I feel like the game is just at a point where no addons wouldn’t really be realistic anymore. Everything in the game for the past decade has been designed with addons in mind, and continues to be. Hell PvPing right now without addon requires some superhuman skills or ur basically inting.

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Can confirm I use better wardrobe and I can’t color coordinate to save my life.

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Just like iphones make people dumb.

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So turn the addon off and let the people be toxic towards you because you react to mechanic LATE because the addon is not there to told you what to do in the second it happen because when mechanic happens it’s already to late to react
the addon is there so you can see what is the next mechanic from boss and you can prepare yourself in advance

I personally never had problem to do my rotaion properly and watching timers :smiley:

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Addons don’t make people dumb. People are already dumb.

Addons allow people, dumb and smart alike, to overcome obstacles in fights before having learned them properly.

Dumb people stop improving at overcoming these obstacles because the addons are already making them overcome it, while smart people keep improving to ensure they’ll be capable of dealing with the obstacles without addons.

The earliest addon was having a raidleader telling you what to do. The second that raidleader stopped calling things out, you could instantly figure out who actually learned what to do and who was just following orders blindly.

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Oh it’s weekend already

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dude pls dont say me about reacting on time coz god stuffs are poping and give you plenty of time to react even without addon just ppl pref to dps like retards and go in last moments

like on what boss you need realy to know time espesly boss do always same way all thing Guardian? honest game give you allert when you get debuff if you dont listnen then no addon can help or maybe fatescribe? also you got plenty of time to react for runes and other stuff coz honest not reacting in time i dont see moments like that maybe for soulrender only but there addon also dont help you fully coz you need pay atention where waves will show.

So realy i cant see where addon is realy need and my theory still works coz i meet few people who dont use addons at all and they preform better than this with addons

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I can argue that most people cannot even follow DBM that well…

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well maybe addon is good for leader to see who suck but as i did say before i see huge difrence in skills for people who dont use addons and one that use them and realy its like this without addons moust time have more skills than this with addons why? coz they dont wait for addon to say them what to do they pay attention they know what boss will do when coz its realy not hard to know

and this is why WoW loses players.

Stop trying judge and gatekeep people.

Elitism should have no place in something we play for fun and entertainment.

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its not about pro or no its about thing ppl want do raids when they dont have clue what to do or dont care to folow mechanics maybe you think that its fun but for people who lose hours to do 1 boss its not fun i dont mid wipe few times but i hate when ppl dont learn from mistakes and repeat them all time over

No i do not think it’s “Fun” to be yelled at after every single pull and no,
I do not think it’s fun to live in fear of the day when the Guild master is finally going to “Get sick of me”

I did plenty of Guild raiding in earlier expansions WoD-Legion, But thanksfully wow introduced other gearing methods, No more forced raiding or forced into that environment

and this is why i’m half-way to an anxiety attack just at the thought of ever stepping foot in another WoW raid again.

I am a very slow learner… so to protect myself from abuse and harassment i’ve just decided never to do them again, the stress is not worth it.

and no i do not “choose” to be a slow learner or to be “bad at the game” even if you want to imply that.

But thanks for telling me that the playerbase still has not changed, even after so many years :smiley:

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well dude if you cant listnen to what people say and you go your way all time then dont be suprised ppl are for you like that

you see only your harm but look for them not all people have time to spend hours repeating boss they before many times just because you cant lear or atlast listnen to what people say

so yes if you cant do raids dont do them for that you got raid finder

Yell after single pull oh no dude i start yell after 5 pulls where same person repeat same mistakes coz that flustrate and is waste of time to keep that person in raid coz he just dont want to learn

Nah.

The default UI sucks.

Default ui?

well i just dont like ideas blizzard put alst time like stupid mechanic in hc that should be mythic only you know for example fatescribe with that picking random people with runes

coz you are pushed to count on randoms who many times ignore runes just to do good dps