Admit it now

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I honestly can’t believe any players in this game anymore who say they don’t use any tricks like scripts to win games. The truth is that yes, you do, you just don’t get caught. I’ve been following this development of using scripts for a while now and asked a friend of mine who works for a Finnish game company how much this happens.

Like now in the arena, the tempo of the game is so fast that you just can’t do without these scripts and you just have to win those matches. This change happened in about a couple of years when these tools entered the market. I can call myself a responsive player, but this phenomenon is obvious. You will not win without tools.

And Blizzard, i’m asking to ban people using these tools even you don’t want to raise this topic any further. I wan’t to play against player, not against scripted actions in pvp.

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What are scripts? Like bots?

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All right what’s scripted this time then?

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I swear I haven’t met a scripter in the game ever. Only saw a few in videos.

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Kick bots are definitely a thing. And ring of peace perfectly over darkness, for instance. Instantly, faster even than the darkness animation can spread on the ground.
Shamans with rotation scripts to make perfect use of every proc was a thing.
At this point you can probably get a script for anything. If you wanna mass dispel every time a mage iceblocks, for instance, i bet you can get a script for it. You don’t have to do anything but make sure mass dispell is not on cd.

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friend of mine what made 2.4 in solo shuffle is using this

#showtooltip
/castsequence [@cursor]reset=10 Blade of Justice, Judgment, Crusade, Templar’s Verdict, Wake of Ashes, Hammer of Wrath, Templar’s Verdict, Divine Toll, Hammer of Wrath, Templar’s Verdict, Final Reckoning, Blade of Justice, Judgment
/use 13

when it comes to scripts, we had allot of ele and dh bots in df, but most likely for shuffle gaming

I think most of the players you think is a bot isnt a bot, but simply new accounts that are played by mglads/r1 to sell them

i heard many dh´s for example playing with the addon called GSE: Sequences, Variables, Macros, and some using Ahk on top of it

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GSE only does what the API allows them to do. Blizzard nerfed it a bit at the start of TWW.
Its also really only for damage rotations (its basically just doing advanced cast sequences) and isnt gonna do anything better than a player can.

AHK isnt necessary for GSE either.
Just about any major mouse software wil let you make a button to spam 1111111111

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I’ve had MW Monks shadowmeld the evoker “Swoop Up” pvp talent 0.01 seconds before it connected during a teamfight.

0.2 second Warlock Havoc dispels.

As someone else said monks using ROP before the ground effect becomes visible…

I’ve had a solo shuffle Hunter click his Turtle Stance/DR randomly at a 50% HP threshold behind walls while completely safe. [luckily he went 0-6]

Some very weird scripts are going around.

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Yea I’ve seen these ones. Most notably kickbots always kicking when the cast is at 95%, disgusting. And ofc the ele shaman bots all over the place in DF, using wall at 50% and burrow at 20% even if a tiny dot happens to proc their health below the threshold behind a pillar.

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That’s not script. That just a regular cast sequence macro.
Usually not worth using in PvP.

For him to hit 2.4 on ret he still needed to have good pvp awareness, like when to use BoP, LoH and that stun removal ability etc.

Think that macro would gimped him more then it would help.

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it isnt, but helps allot of players to do more dmg, than they would otherwise do and it´s most likely a fury warri/ dh thing (maybe bm too)

i didnt said it will be better than a player can do, but many players perform worse without it, because it executes your rotation so easily with less delays on your button press

i havent said, that this is a script either, i know what a script is, because i have played for 4 Years on a Wotlk Private server

it is, for newer players, or what are bad in pressing buttons fast/ or have problems with muscle memory

in df it was possible to hit 2.4 in shuffle by just doing as much pve dmg as possible on some classes

https://imgur.com/a/drz8gtN

this is how a script looks in Wotlk, some german warriors used it on retail wotlk too.

saw also a ww monk script bot in action, a friend from private server used it, because he isnt good at the game he streamed it on discord, but got banned after 3 Months, while on Wotlk/ cata now, he´s not banned since 2 Years of scripting.

Means retail have a “good” gm moderation when it comes to scripts/botuser, but not in the Classic version of wow

lol no, not in shuffle until 2.4 lmao

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i know a rank1 streamer that sells accounts once they hit glad
and he uses scripts on the new accounts to make it faster for sale

i would never rat on him, its not my job to find these “cheaters”

  • also AHK ( auto hot key ) is generally with razor keyboards, people consider this cheating. but it isnt it just remaps your input to macro’s
  • scripting using 3rd party programs that auto play for you " botting" is cheating

some people argue AHK is the same but it isnt

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A regular cast sequence macro can’t cast spells depending on which procs are up. But that shaman rotation script can. It reacts inhumanly fast to procs happening. Its virtually impossible for a human being to make perfect use of every single proc that happens. But that script does it.

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na it´s not the same, the grey area is really deep, on some classes u can argue, that it is kind of cheating, when it comes to high apm classes like outlaw rogue

or wotlk arms warri

it´s a common thing, these chars have most likely “goofy random names” no transmoggs, and also 0 xp and no xp in previous xpacs

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That’s not hard to do. Point and click… Same with a priest dome.

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Nah. There is no way you can point and click and put your dome perfectly over DH darkness in less time that it takes to point, let alone click. There are videos showing this on youtube. Don’t recall precisely, but Venruki put out a video where he showed this. I’ve also seen it on Pikaboo streams, where a monk was just placing ring perfectly on darkness every time.
Pika went over the vod after, studying it, and the only time during all 6 ss rounds the monk didnt do it was when he’d used ring a few seconds earlier so it was on cd.

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Im guessing the monk timed it very well. Which again, not that hard to do. Dh toss out darkness when they are low on health.

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No, there was no mistaking it. That was a script placing the ring. Just do some searching on youtube and you will find tons of videos where you can see for yourself.
Seems you guys don’t really get how fast Im talking about. Darkness and ring were placed pretty much simultaneously. No way any human being can react that fast. Once, maybe, by luck. But not every time.

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this is just prediction and reaction. people have been deathing blinds for 20 years man, dispelling something fast isn’t suspicious at all, especially something as high importance as havoc. the thing your brain is locked onto as a shaman while playing into a destro lock is ‘i will dispel every havoc insta’ and your addons scream it at you too.

the slower the meta the easier it is to stand around and wait for these reaction speed tests.

it probably wasn’t 0.2. either, it was probably 0.3-0.5. average reaction time is 0.25 seconds, your GCD is a lot longer than that. unless you’re just not paying attention you or you’re in CC, you will get every havoc and its completely standard to get every havoc dispell.

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nah there was a specific script that immediately pinpoint placed ROP in the direct center of darkness/dome. it was pretty notorious and funny at the time. lots of clips like this of people baiting the bot by throwing their darkness or dome in the middle of nowhere