The Pandaran have kind of sold themselves out abit with teaching anyone and everyone their secrets. On the other hand, it worked.
Iâd be careful. The Shado-pan are NOT to be messed with. I find it unlikely that any form of Zanda troll would have been allowed to live, if so, theyâd be prisoners of the Shado-pan. They appeared almost immdiately when the alliance and horde arrived on the isle, and Taran Zhu seems to be able to teleport at will.
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I could buy that if they were a soldier or clearly posed some sort of threat, but a fisherman? Donât you think the shadopan
above all would want to observe such a person for a while? They arnt stupid.
The Zanda trolls have been an endless threat for generations. I doubt theyâd suffer even a single one willingly.
He has a cloud serpent, in case you wonder how he got between the two ends of the jade forest so quickly.
But yeah, Abigayle is right. The Shado-pan are super hardcore. They sentence dismemberment for petty theft. They wouldnât be kind to a Zandalari.
What it was just after mists? Wouldnât things be abit more relaxed then when Zuls forces were defeated?
Or perhaps like Roggor said above, someone else comes across him first other then the shado pan?
Sorry, I really dont want to come off as someone who is trying to lorebreakingly force an idea, just really think this idea isnât all that unlikely, much stranger things have happend in wow and even in real life all the time.
Pandaria had been hidden by mist for ten thousand years. The last interaction that the Pandaren had with Zandalari trolls before MoP was the Zandalari Invasion, twelve thousand years before present day.
Before MoP, the Zandalari were probably just a boogeyman associated with the mogu. âAn endless threat for generationsâ describes the mantid, the sha or the yaungol. Not the Zandalari trolls that hadnât been present on Pandaria for twelve thousand years.
I disagree. A lot of their entire culture is based around the Mogu and the Zandalari wars. They were more than boogie-men, considering how much the Pandaren venerate their own history too.
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Wow twelve thousand years, knew it was a long time but didnât know it was THAT longâŚ
I mean, most pandaren might not think much about the Zandalari. But the Shado-pan definitely would. They take their duty very seriously, especially considering that the Celestials they work so closely alongside were there for those old wars. Remember Burdens of Shaohao, how Xuen was directly commanding the proto-Shado-Pan?
Iâd say to do it after the death of Zul. Once troll behind 5.2 was defeated and the other Zandalari rejected his actions, your character would have a better foundation for requesting training.
Iâm not talking about the training happening after mists, meant him getting shipwrecked.
Want him to go into training around now time.
(The shipwrecking is just a fun idea I had to spark some interest in the Zandalari, so heâs not waking up one morning deciding he wants to be a monk.)
Oh, then yeah, that as well.
You could RP the shipwreck out right now if you want to. Could be fun!
The mogu, yes. A great deal of pandaren civilisation comes from their roots as a slave race of the mogu. The only influence that the Zandalari had on the pandaren was that the Zandalari Invasion led to the founding of the Order of the Cloud Serpent.
To quote something that an employee of Blizzard has said:
âThousands of years ago, when the Zandalari and the Mogu boasted the most powerful empires in Azeroth, the Zandalari were actually allied with the Mogu. So when the Pandaren revolted against the Mogu, of course the Zandalari displayed their allegiance to their Mogu friends by attacking the embryonic Pandaren empire. Overcoming this threat was to be one of the Pandaren empireâs first tests of strength.
After the passing of so many thousands of years, after the mists had covered Pandaria for so long â keeping ancient threats like the Zandalari at bay â Pandaren children have now come to see the mythological Zandalari somewhat like our children see bogeymen. Scary enough to ensure compliance with the instructions and requests of parents, but at the end of the day, not the kind of threat you ever really see with your own eyes and in your own backyard⌠right?â
Far from being âan endless threat for generations,â and the term boogeyman is actually used.
Agreed.
If youâre in no hurry to be an adept, RP it out recently, and have your RP as the whole âseeking a masterâ thing. Maybe spread feelers into the pandaren hordeside community.
If I had a horde pandaren monk Iâd be game to do it myself as I love the whole partnership rp concept, itâs just that all my pandas are alliance as it stands and given theyrecsll pretty hard line tushui they wouldnât be suitable as a mentor.
Iâll just add on the âjudging the zandalariâ thing. I doubt even at the worst times an unarmed zandalari would be killed or attacked if clearly a civilian. Maybe imprisoned as pandaren have a pretty well developed justice system and judging people on the crimes of others is not part of that system.
Another potential hook. Incarerated zandalari is given sparring sessions as part of some rehabilitation stance, when the pandaria conflict ends and the zandalari are defeated he is exiled and by chance comes across one of his prison trainers who has since joined the huojin or similar.
Ehhhhhhh. I doubt theyâd train prisoners to fight. Seems like a recipe for disaster.
The Shado-Pan order was founded or atleast started from the mixture of Mogu / Zanda wars. The Celestials would remember it.
They might not have been an active threat but, taking time frame into mind. âPandaren children have NOW come to see them as boogeymen.â Then they suddenly turn back up and begin invasion 2.0, only to be pushed back by the heroes of the game. So I still disagree with you.
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No, it was founded by Shaohao. Xuenâs hundred warriors have no lore behind them before that moment, least of all any lore that connects them to the rebellion or the Zandalari Invasion.
Your initial statement of âan endless threat for generationsâ is still incorrect, regardless of your disagreement.
Iâm not arguing that the Zandalari trolls were not a threat during MoP, or that the Shado-Pan wouldnât have been hostile towards them.
Iâm pointing out that your declaration that the Zandalari Empire endlessly threatened Pandaria for generations is wrong, and that the original poster of this thread shouldnât make any decisions based off of that particular falsehood.
It is worth noting that those warriors wore Shado-pan uniforms, suggesting that they were the origin of the Shado-pan.
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https://wow.gamepedia.com/The_Emperor%27s_Burden_-_Part_7
They were not Shado-Pan until Shaohao founded the order. Thatâs the origin of the Shado-Pan. Yes, the hundred warriors of Xuen were probably the first members of that order, but thereâs absolutely nothing connecting the hundred warriors of Xuen to the Zandalari Invasion or the Pandaren Revolution.
Yes there is, Xuen and the other Celestials. They were there for the Mogu Empire, they were freed in the revolution, and their (at least Xuenâs) warriors lately became the Shado-pan. To this day the Shado-pan and Celestials evidently work together, as shown in the Eternal Blossoms intro quest and more extensively in Townlong Steppes.
In fact, Xuenâs very symbol is part of the Shado-Pan banner.