Advisers on the war council

Lets pretend that your charater is asked to join your factions war council.

You are to advise the warchief or high king on what would be best for the war effort.

Argue from your charater point of view.
Other members of your factions can try to counter argue it.

Remember your goal is to convince the warchief or high king to argee with your plan.
You dont get to accauly order anyone around.
Just give your idea’s to your boss.

Hmm, that’s an interesting topic, I like it… I’ll take a bite of that…

“Warchief, I have a set of concerns, and a set of remedies we can take, to both prosecute this war, and keep the Horde together, as I think we can see, that currently, it is not united,

Firstly, we have reached a point where we can not back down. The Burning of Teldrassil is…not a popular move by many in the Horde, the Alliance regard it as an atrocity beyond compare, and in the wider world we risk alienating such unaligned peoples as the Pandaren, and the smaller nations, like the Tortollans, and the Tuskaar. What is done, is however, done, we cannot go back. We need to seriously consider how our actions will look to the rest of Azeroth, for if this War goes ill for us, they will play the Judge, at the following trial, assuming they afford you one.

Secondly, it is imperative that you release Baine, and pardon Saurfang, you have two of the core races of the Horde, currently being disenfranchised, who rules the Orcs now? Who rules the Tauren?, this appearance of a centralisation of power will not end well, we both remember the last time a Warchief confused being Warchief, with ‘Being the Horde’ and how it ended for him.

The third point is linked to the above. Your predecessor stated famously that “the Horde is Family”. That is a value missing from today’s Horde, you need to foster that image again, rekindle it. Soldiers fight better when they -want- to fight, or have something to fight -for-, not just out of sheer aggression, it doesn’t matter if you tell them pretty lies to get them to believe their cause is just, but you have to make them believe in -something-, you must, as the saying goes, “If you don’t stand for something, you will fall for anything”

Fourth point. Use of Weapons. The Horde has at its disposal two weapons of mass destruction that the Alliance does not, the Blight, and the Tactical Mana Bomb. The thing with such weapons is that they should be used sparingly, or else they lose their cachet, their terror factor, if we use them profligately then they have the opposite effect…they will not terrify the enemy, they will embolden them. What has mortal man to fear, if his destruction is certain, he may as well fight on, no matter how hopeless his situation, to the bitter end. Excessive use is counterproductive to the War effort, and will only lead to greater resistance than is necessary to win the War.

Fifth point. Take advice more often. Taking a solipsistic view on how to prosecute a war has -never- worked for anyone, and only resulted in their downfall and destruction, for a confederation of species such as the Horde this is doubly so, you cannot blindly assume you know what is best for the Horde. Nor should you be able to. What would a Tauren know of what is best for a Blood Elf? What would a Blood Elf know what is best for a Darkspear Troll?

Take advice when it is given.

That would be my Counsel…”

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Mana Bombs!

Give us gnomes some proper funding and we will go to the completely forgotten realm of Netherstorm and fuel up a couple those little mana crackers, and we will drop them on every major Horde settlement!

Also, I propose we have Jaina spreadhead those attacks. That will make the Horde think their towns aren’t really in danger and that there is no risk of strategic loss!

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"Before I left the Horde, I worked with experts who composed extensive psychological profiles on every major leader, including their own, and I had the opportunity to work with some of them personally. I’ve since compared notes with their counterparts in SI:7 and Gnomeregan’s strategic intelligence unit. Here’s what we’ve determined and my suggestion for how to deal with it:

"Baine Bloodhoof. You know him personally, so I’ll be brief. He loves the Horde, both for itself and for what it meant to his father, but there are limits to where he’ll go. So far he’s followed Sylvanas’ plan reluctantly, but his recent act of rebellion seems to have been a tipping point. If we can free him, we gain a potent ally - I doubt he’d leave the Horde entirely, and his people certainly wouldn’t, but they’d oppose the Banshee Queen without hesitation.

"Master Gadrin. We don’t have much on him, he’s been a pretty background presence so far, just trying to keep the Darkspear tribe together after Vol’jin’s death. Best impression is that he’s out of his depth, a spiritual leader trying to run a growing nation that barely resembles what he knew in his youth. He’s loyal to the Horde, but more loyal to Vol’jin, and some intelligence reports say that might matter sooner than we think.

"Eitrigg. Another old man thrust into a leadership position by default. Nobody really stepped up to rule the Orcs directly, but he, Drek’thar and Saurfang were about the only high-ranking Orcs still alive after Thrall abdicated and Garrosh was put on trial. He’s a war dog through and through; if someone yells ‘For the Horde’ loud enough, he’ll fight anything. Not much we can do with that.

"Nathanos Blightcaller. He’s taken a more active role of late, as the Warchief’s lieutenant. His loyalty borders on active worship; as far as he’s concerned, Sylvanas can do no wrong. He’s not without tactical intelligence, but he undermines himself by being more abrasive and repulsive than even most Forsaken will tolerate. One spy heard his co-workers openly fantasize about killing him. If need be, we can stoke those tensions, but my recommendation is to let it lie. He’ll dig his own grave, and it’s better that the Horde’s own bury him.

"Lor’themar Theron. I’ve never actually spoken to him, but I’m pretty familiar with his work. I carried some of it out myself. He doesn’t like politics, which is a shame because we’re a very political people. His experience of it so far has burned him, made him cautious to commit, especially when it might get his people in danger. I sympathize. But for all that he is committed to the Horde, it’s not unfaltering. He’s pragmatic - even talked with your father about rejoining the Alliance. I’m still mad at Jaina for screwing that up, unknowing or not. Anyway, he’s got a long memory, and he won’t let that ‘Alliance treachery’ go easily, but I think he can be reasoned with, especially in light of recent events. Give me the go-ahead and I’ll personally oversee the effort to reach out to him. If nothing else, I very much doubt he’ll tell the Banshee Queen. He’d rather leave the option open, just in case.

"Jastor Gallywix. Classic narcissist. To him, the whole world boils down to questions such as ‘How do I exploit this for profit?’ His ego covers obvious insecurities. It’d be sad if he wasn’t the cause of so much suffering. Still, he’s smarter than he seems, and can be persuasive in that slimy, I-know-he’s-playing-me-but-he’s-right kind of way. Recommend elimination. Most Goblins won’t be especially galvanized by his death, and nobody else will miss him.

"Ji Firepaw. He’s also there. Seriously, though, he doesn’t do very much. There are few Pandaren among the Horde, and he doesn’t so much rule them as just generally speak for them. I had lunch with him once. Nice guy, but a bit brash. Tends to focus more on the personal than the political, the emotional over the big picture. Of course, after Pandaria, who can blame him for taking it easy? Don’t be fooled, though, he’ll fight like a dragon if attacked, and won’t betray the Horde for anything. He might be convinced into another rebellion, or to advocate for peace, but he will never surrender.

"Mayla Highmountain. A recent addition to the Horde, not yet used to unquestioning obedience to the Warchief. That means that when Sylvanas locks up her best friend in the Horde, her faith is shaken badly. If I’m to guess, I’d say she’s regretting that she ever left Highmountain. Overtures to join the Alliance probably won’t be well met, but with a bit of care and subtlety, she might be convinced to withdraw from the Horde. Only problem is that she’ll be a target the moment she does. Airships bombarding Thunder Totem with blight, soldiers butchering Rivermane farmers, the works. We could try offering her protection and assistance, no strings attached; it would be a good foot in the door, but we’re already spread thin, as you know. For now, though, I recommend we wait and see.

"First Arcanist Thalyssra. Another one I worked with, during the Suramar campaign. Intel says she was driven to the Horde mostly because of a bad reception from her Kaldorei cousins; the Nightborne in general have little love for spikes and red leather. The only ones they really like are the Sin’dorei, and she’s little different. If we can get to Lor’themar, he’ll get to her. I confess to some bias here. Having all the major Elven races working together is something of a fantasy of mine.

"Overlord Geya’rah. She wasn’t even on the board when I left, so this is a new piece to me. What SI:7 knows so far is that she’s fierce, aggressive, puts strength and ‘honor’ first before anything else, and seems entirely aligned with Sylvanas. Her father’s daughter. She also has a particular phobia of the Light and of Draenei. I could practically hear the flashbacks some of our own Draenei analysts were having. Eliminating her would only embolden her followers, but it might be possible to trick her. We’re still working on the details. I’ll get back to you.

"Princess Talanji. To be honest, her ideals seem to align more closely with the Alliance than the Horde, but after the Horde helped her save her empire and the Alliance attacked it and killed her father, I feel like that bridge is well and truly burned. She seems wary of Sylvanas, though, and confident in her sovereignty… enough to declare the Zandalari as equals to the Horde, right to the Banshee Queen’s face. You see why I like her. So soon after the attack, she won’t be open to diplomatic overtures, and she’s not one to abandon her pact lightly, but she may still be persuaded if it’s the only way to save her people. We recommend keeping up the military pressure.

"We saved the worst for last: Sylvanas Windrunner. Ruthless, spiteful, petty, vindictive, cruel and utterly tyrannical. I used to admire and look up to the ranger-general of Quel’thalas, and I think my people will always remember her, but as far as I’m concerned that woman died long ago. Reports indicate she has some lingering sentiment toward her sisters, but I sincerely doubt we can leverage that, she’s too far gone. Similarly, her concern for the Forsaken as a people, for their own sake and in their own right, has atrophied. They’re just her best tool now, the ones who won’t question her and can’t betray her.

“She’s cunning, almost as much as she thinks she is, and won’t bat an eye at sacrificing anything for her own goals. Frankly, there’s not much to say here that you don’t already know. We’d kill her if we could, and while it’s doubtful that that would end the war, it’s absolutely certain that the war will not end while she’s in power. She will never stop until all of Azeroth serves her, in life and in death. The good news is that she’s overconfident in her power and her ability to rule through fear. Arresting Baine and killing Zelling - that undead Tidesage - has just made the work of fomenting rebellion in the Horde even easier. It’ll be a second Siege of Orgrimmar at this rate, and the aftermath, well… That’s a matter for another briefing. We’ll keep watching for opportunities to kill her, but until then, it’s business as usual.”

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A grizzled human in his late thirties - his attire seemingly inspired by Malfurion’s - bows deeply before the young king, murmuring gruffly in a Gilnean accent,
"My king. I am but a simple druid. I am no warrior, and certainly no military leader. However, I do have some experience studying and aiding the balance of nature. This balance is evident - and essential - all over our world.

I believe a similar balance is necessary between the influential peoples of the world as well. We cannot let Sylvanas…"
The druid fights a lupous sneer as he says the banshee’s name,
"…destroy that balance, nor our world.

I am afraid the undead warchief is beyond all reasoning, but I think many members of the Horde remember how we worked together against the Legion less than a year ago. I am sure they agree that no good will come from destroying each other and our world. We cannot simply give up the war, but…"
He hesitates, weighing and choosing his next words carefully.

"I fear neither side is strong enough on its own to keep Azeroth safe from the threats and enemies we may have to face.
Therefore, I hope we can somehow end this war without either side suffering too many casualties. I do not know how… But I think the survival of our entire world depends on it.

Thank you for your time, your majesty.
May the gr…"
He stutters, realizing that the worgen farewell may have a dual meaning to the young king, but he completes the phrase solemnly,
“May the great wolf spirit guide you.”
He takes another deep bow, awkwardly turns around, and walks away, very obviously not accustomed to advising royalty.

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