Hi,
If anyone has the same feelings as Reckful had, share it with someone, anyone. Talk about it. Go to your doctor and ask for help. You can also post your battletag if you want to talk about it and i´ll add you.
8 Likes
I’d be happy to help anyone too! I’ve come from a difficult past too and I’ve had suicidal thoughts since I was a kid. I’ve grown as a person over the years and I’m not shy to talk about it to anyone.
One love <3
Amazing message. Thank you for helping out man, seriously. 
Call me a downer if you like. But people who really need the help will most unlikely to seek it on a video game forum…
7 Likes
This is so mutch bigger than Reckful. First off i think Blizzard needs to take there responsibility AND other companies along with streaming services.
The language filters need to be mutch harder, i mean we dont need f u c k y o u or FU and on so i think they should really dig in to this.
I played mmorpgs from around 1995 and i made friends along the way but counting the years and time i spent very few friends but i met toxic ppl and ALOT of them.
If we keep it to the Reckful thing, i mean watch his streams on youtube and pause them, how many go kill your self are there?
let me tell you a TON!! , how many lines with things that makes fun of him and says his this and that degrading him.
Tbh for being the person he was he did not deserv that, he did not need any of the toxic ppl that were there.
I never met him i followed his streams, i watch alot of streams but no matter what i never say anything negative some make money for there stream but that is not the reason why am there. Am there for the streamer and he streams for me that he makes money on it is a bonus for him.
To make it short, Why do not Blizzard push this harder and not only Blizzard but also streaming platforms like Twitch and other companies solid language filters
Everything bad ppl type should just come out in chat in XXXXXXXXX or just something then atleast the streamer dont know exactly what was typed and followers wont jump on the train. I heard / saw a video that the actual chat was not that pushed him but still nobody and i mean nobody goes unaffected by being hammered with you suck ,go die etc etc day in & out.
I do strongly belive at the end of the day when the streamer close down it has made an impact and not a good one. There is even medical studies about this if people tell you that you are stupid after a time you start to belive it your self. Am glad that some major streamers etc has started to bring this up cause i think many even if we guess a higher number we have no idea how many that feel bad out there and i think one thing that gamers often are struck by is being alone.
sorry for my gramma 
The toxicity definition can vary a lot. While most agree to the “kill yourself or wishing a deadly disease to somebody” as toxic. Other situations are not so clear cut. For some the word “stupid” is extremely toxic while for others its a common word like apple. If Blizzard or any other company starts cracking down to everything which is “toxic to somebody” well…we are pretty much asking for internet censorship then. Even respectful(no cursing) criticism for some are “toxic”. Should we all get perma-silenced if we dare to say to somebody that his performance is sub-par or that will be “toxic” of us?
1 Like
I seem to remember a similar thread when reckfuls passed away.
Personally I would advise people to get professional help. I am there for my friends ofc but I am not a trained counsellor or psychiatrist.
1 Like
Exactly.
Look, no disrespect to those who commited suicide, but honestly, when a person tells another person to kill themselves and the recipient does not reply with something like “go eff yourself” and actually considers commiting the act, then it’s probably better these people spend a lot less time on the internet and more in a psychiatrist’s office. I think a lot of people forgot how to get angry.
2 Likes
I know streaming is to interact with ppl is a huge part too, But i really cant see any need for bad language. I totally get what ya saying but and i see your phrase with the apple. But is not that the thing called respect. I come to your chat cause i think your one hell of a good streamer, i find your content funny and i respect you.
Online gameing ppl has insanely high toxic rate, while i come to watch your stream cause even at my age i think your brillient 500 join it to say your stupid and other things. Call it censorship if you want but if i know i saved one guy even if i never met him or never will i would be very happy. All this comes down to i respect you and what you do but bottom line to me you are a human being with feelings. Even if some may rub it off i still belive at the end of the day when stream ends they have not forgotten some things they read in chat.
But when
Well there are 2 issues with this.
1st The previous mentioned broad definition of the word “toxic”. Heck. I can say that you are toxic to me cause you have a different opinion so Blizzard must ban you…k? See where I am going?
2nd. Streaming on twitch or what ever…especially on a video game(and I agree to some extent about people being toxic in them). Is an entertainer’s “job”. And like any entertainer…no matter how good or famous you are, WILL attract hatters. Its part of the job. Like it or not. And you MUST accept the fact that when you are streaming for the masses…you will also attract people who “won’t be all rainbows and smilley sun faces”.
Don’t get me wrong. I will NEVER defend harassment when somebody is spamming you 24/7 or outright stalking you real life. But you also should not feel offended and take it deeply to the heart when “1 random Joe on the internet told you a big bad meanie word!”.
I did not get the thing u were going with the opinion ban really. Is that not also respect? i respect that you dont think the same as me, But it does not give me the right to say i wish you would go kill your self cause then the respect is gone.
With streaming i think that is the thing really, we have the tools but we dont use them(or the companies do to the platforms) It could be an option to turn on/off full language filter or not.But ofc as you say once you get big and known to the public there will be stuff out just like on Doc now all from that his being arrested for pedo and so on. But when you are home streaming (your home your castle) makeing your living i think you have the right to do i think also being streamer is mutch closer than being like a movie star, they walk the red carpet after they done a movie with already made up lines etc. streamers are live and heads up with there fan base.
Ofc as you say if you cant handle random joe say 1 thing, then perhaps streaming is not for you and they have to get in terms with that. But you also knows what happends according to studies with 1 negative person among 20 thrilled ones…thats how powerful negativity is.
You never know 
Sometimes people who need help look for it in unorthodox ways
1 Like
Honestly I’m up too, Widdershins#21638.
I do suggest to go and seek the help of professionals, but if you ever feel like you just want to talk to someone feel free to message me.
Well. Its difficult to spot them on video game forums. Very very few people will speak about their issues outright on the forums.
Also we communicate here via text which doesn’t help much. A depressed person may say that “I am fine” while its visible to the naked eye that he is falling apart and is obviously not “fine” but on a text based communication platform? I can say that “I am ok” while being extremely happy or extremely angry and you won’t feel or see the difference.
One would hope people stop punching down at people who are at risk by throwing around “triggered” and “did you assume my gender” or worse but my expectations are low.
A lot easier said than done. Especially during lockdown. Someone I know was having a severe episode of mania (suffers with BPD), phoned to get help from the hospital and got told his case wasn’t severe enough to warrant coming into the hospital at this time due to covid. Next day, he had OD’d and was rushed into hospital.
He’s doing okay now, but it just goes to show, even the healthcare system is failing people.
Who in the right mind, tells someone who suffers with severe mental illness that it doesn’t warrant coming into hospital.
People put up barriers to seek help when they need it most. They want to appear strong, but they are frail. They think their final sense of worth - all they live for still - is tried up with them not revealing the frailty.
That’s the challenge. You have to coax it out of them by catching them off guard with help where they least expect it.
Saying “seek help” never works. They won’t. Places like this is precisely the kind of place where you have a chance.
2 Likes
for anyone feeling down like that my tag is
Ben#25842
I’ve lost multiple friends to suicide and almost my own brother,
i’m here just to listen if that’s all you need but I can provide (UK based) confidential advice for what services are available to assist you(and from my own experience), I am LGBT but not restricted to that.
it tears my heart apart knowing people are feeling that way, if I can help in any way I will - even if its just someone to tool around with on Warcraft to make the days easier.
lockdown has been dire for those on their own, I know, I am too.
lets band together and help alleviate depression and suicidal thoughts
I was thinking about creating a guild or maybe simply a community for mental health support, don’t really have a formation in mental health but I feel like sometimes simply having someone you could talk to is better than nothing.
Do you guys think it’s a good idea?
2 Likes
I’m not sure.
I mean I’ll qualify that before sounding callous and uncaring about it, I have -been- in that situation after a divorce ten years ago, and twice did actively attempt self destruction, once with the pills and alcohol route and once with the tried and tested sharp item and wrists thing, on both occasions I was thankfully found in time, so I fully do understand where that mindset lies, but a worst case scenario of what you describe is a bunch of people who collectively really do need proper help, and not just a bunch of people who might all have the same problems, as that could lead to a horrible scenario where a really bad collective decision is made.
These things have happened, Internet Suicide pacts, because sometimes if people are spiralling down, the -last- thing they need is to be in an environment where other people are spiralling down with them, because that then almost enables such mental thought processes.
Also imagine you were someone in such a guild who did not have mental health problems, someone with genuine noble intentions, to be a sympathetic voice. Imagine how you would feel if a Guildie suddenly dropped off the radar. Did they just stop playing? Did the worst happen? How would it affect your -own- mental health if after trying to help, you might have -failed- You’d never really -know- what had happened.
If you were such a person, and did not have actual professional qualifications or training, how could you be certain that the solace and advice was the -right- advice, and was not in some way accelerating someone towards a precipitous act with disastrous consequences.
Everyone is different, everyone’s mind works differently. This is why the term ‘Snowflake’ is so ridiculous, because when people use it, they completely misuse it. Everyone -is- a ‘Snowflake’, as in unique and special, and to assume otherwise is making the assumption that we are all identical cookie-cutter products.
We’re not. We -are- all unique. In all the world, in all the cosmos (assuming there are not parallel dimensions) there is only one of each of us. The circumstances and situations that led to us coming to be are entirely unique, so what works for one, may not work for all.
A Guild as a support group? That could work, but it would have to be just that, a support group, the instant it changes into advice and ‘coping’ mechanisms it could be a very bad idea indeed.
I think you would have to be very careful about how you implemented it and what everyone understood it to mean.
I’m not saying it is not a noble idea, but I am saying you would need to keep a distinct ‘remove’ between support, and counselling, because if you are not trained, you could accidentally do more harm than good.
1 Like