AI Art as character reference (And now some very unrelated conversation)

You consistently sound like someone who bases their personality on the podcast of some guy who tells everyone to eat raw horse balls that have been fermenting for the past three months in order to become more manly because it boosts testosterone, I suggest finding some new listening material

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He’s never been normal. It’s quite sad really considering that there was a time when he had a chance to turn things around.

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Uh-huuuh, sure it was hyperbole just like all your other posts right??? RIGHT??

That’s called going outside or googling whatever you want to be inspired by, not typing in a prompt to a machine taught by stolen works to do it for you.
It’s what we’ve done since the begining of time, we being people who y’know do art

I am like 80% sure I’ve seen him openly bragging about being a Tatebro at some point.

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And now there is another tool for that toolbox. Like how Photoshop and other digital art programs were a new tool for artists.

Oh I am quite aware, given the guild he ran and the things they did whilst being fully serious about it (CoughGrindstoneCough)

It fits tbh.

I don’t think you understand how any of those programs work and it really shows.

Adobe deciding to piss their consumer base over by implementing AI aside, any editing or changing of refferences done have been made by human hand. Unlike what your AI tool of choice does.

AI is theft. The open accessible version creating images is theft.

Honestly, as a general note, as an artist I will always advice other artists to seek inspiration from real life rather than other peoples artwork (unless it’s regarding technique and style). If you use artwork (especially semi-realism, cartoon and anime) as your sole references for still life and people, it’s easy to get misconstrued.
It’s a faster track to designing unique and diverse characters if you use real life examples. Just a tip from me. :v:

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… You are talking with someone who is using those programs. And really wish i had the mental capacity to stay focused in creating art without being obsessed over the tiniest little mistake…

Yet here i also am supporting the advancement of AI models, without actually wishing to use them myself, or at least use it and pass it off as my own work.

Honestly i would support this if the topic was sale and/or passing things off as non-ai. But when we are talking about something like a 4chan AI thread then it’s closer to just hobby stuff.

Recall a mention once about using videos as reference rather than still pictures. Since there can often be a lot of motion going on in the scenes. As well as possible perspectives and positions you aren’t used to.

Same, proffesionally paid work too (:

Welcome to being an artist, we’re all stuck here.

Unfortunately as we’ve tried to get through your thick noggin’, that is exactly what some people are doing or just outright using them to replace folks like us in our fields in the grand name of capitalism.

AI has been a tool used in primarily the animation industry for a while, but as a tool not a replacement which is the difference you so choose to ignore.

The original intention of the thread was hobby yes, however in the grander scheme of all things AI related not so much. Replacing artists or try and pass :poop: off as your own is the daily day atm and it’s a thing that needs to stop.

Not once have i talked about actually replacing artists. Only that I’m wary for potential regulatory capture.

That i fully support (as not support passing AI of as not AI, or replacing an artist).

Even though it’s not what you intended, isn’t the sentiment that you use AI because you don’t believe you have the capacity to create your own art - basically replacing artists?

My sentiment is to never pass off AI pictures as anything other then AI pictures, in a designated AI only area.

At most having it as a potential conceptual reference (might contain colors that are fitting) for something i want to make or have a commission off.

Also a thing… somewhat related to this topic?

I barely ever look on Instagram now a days. I used it to keep up to date about exhibitions or artists and their new work, but I constant get AI art and memes of channels I’m not subbed to. Ever since the Zucc made the change on the platform, my work gets rarely seen, and it kinda gripes me that “AI artists” (lol wtf do these people think they are) have an easier time because they can just spam their stuff on the channel, of which gets seen more, gets likes more, etc.

I’m thinking of moving away from any social media that doesn’t combat AI art on it’s platform.

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It’s a good base to use and construct something else on top of it. I often use outputs as a base to build upon. Correct, alter and improve the ‘soulless’ (what is a soul?) elements of the generation.
As it gets better it will only benefit artists more. Currently it is arguably a disruptive technology underneath a certain threshold but as it refines and improves we’ll end up with a better tool.

Well, provided its not strangulated by a convergence of conflicting interests being corralled by corporate interest.

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AI booba and it’s consequences have been devastating to our lives.

Guess them flooding the site with AI [word too traumatizing for prudes] exploits the algorithm in their favor.

But yeah, inappropriate place for AI.

Here’s my own take on the whole matter, for anyone that actually cares about what I think:

While I’m not part of the “AI art is theft” crowd myself, I can definitely sympathize with these artists and see where they’re coming from. I use AI art myself at times, but merely as a reference to get actual art (if I do not just create the reference myself) or to quickly conceptualize a character from my own stories. I believe this is what the purpose of AI art should be.

Even though I hold nothing against it personally, if you have AI art of your character linked in your TRP it feels cheap to me. It’s noticeable, it sticks out like a sore thumb, and it very rarely fits the WoW aesthetic.

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So for my personal opinion I heavily dislike the use of AI art in any circumstances for a personal character whatsoever. (Just making this stance known)

Though I can see why people use AI art.

A lot of the AD artists aren’t very well advertised and some artists are a bit higher priced for their time (Which is completely fine btw you’re buying someones real time, skillset etc.)

Though for people it might not be a price that they can fit out of their budget and when there’s the ‘easier’ and ‘free’ route why wouldn’t they take it?

A lot of artists from AD as stated aren’t very out there and on the side note a lot of them aren’t currently taking commissions so it’s a rock and a hard place for you never know when their commissions will reopen.

Though I think this is a fair balance. There are other artists but you need to really look for them to find things and some artists aren’t in the style you might see your character in or how you imagine them etc.

Personally I will always use artists when I can / afford the pricing. My usual artist doesn’t even play WoW but I got to know her from old guildies back in the day and her prices have always been worth paying a little extra for because she undersold herself however I’m now waiting potentially 2+ years for the next piece considering they just had a baby bless them.

Though as I’ve said as much as I dislike and do not condone AI art whatsoever I unfortunately cannot tell people other artists I know right now off the top of my head who’s commissions are open or are openly advertised.

There is few discords that you can potentially find them as well as AD Art on facebook however that page has been dead for a while I think.

Though that’s my two coppers. :slight_smile:

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