I didn’t speak about entitlement, what exactly are you trying to do here by twisting my words?
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I appreciate the charity you’ve given in constructively looking at my stances/posts (even if I haven’t directly responded, seeing the heavy dogpile made me decide to make a brief, broad answer instead). I may return later (when work is done) and respond more directly, as I don’t want to blank the honest exchange.
The wonders of democracy, Loras. Where my beliefs are just as legitimate as yours. Our stances are both welcomed, entertained, legal and involved in discussion. Such is the law and foundation of our society.
No, you’re clearly part of the conspiracy, and a brigade in the total war of crypto-fascism as you sit in my discord and projects, Obahar. We need to reroll new alts again. [Sarcasm]
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bro is doing another classic bit from the playbook
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I am not trying to twist your words or make you look bad. I am simply interpreting what you wrote above:
Have you considered that I am just quoting you without any ill-will?
I don’t think you have nefarious plans about this whole thing. It’s largely that your own takes in the thread have been in many parts vague while simultaneously slandering certain groups of people that it has probably left some people - myself included - wondering if it’s worthwhile to continue direct dialogue with someone who doesn’t seem as eager to discuss the issues of the AI image generators as they seem to make unkind remarks about other people or their posts. But if you’re willing to clarify, be our guest:
What exactly do you mean by “profession” ? What did you wish to contribute to the thread with this post?
Who are these people? Are they in this thread? Is it really ironic given where we’re discussing this topic?
This comes across as a sarcastic way saying that artists have an exclusive possession or control of the supply of their trade. Did you intend it to be interpreted this way?
Could you provide some examples of such elitistic takes in this thread that are an insult to actual working class people?
I haven’t seen people in this thread rooting for charging 50€ for 10 minutes of scuff or similar, are you referring to people here or elsewhere? And again could you provide some examples of those pseudo-workerist talking points people have posted here that you view as an insult to working class people?
Who exactly do you mean by “artists” and the “art community”? What has led to you having such a poor opinion of them?
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Just a nordic tankie then
Opinion discarded
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True – and I don’t especially feel the need to mind my manners, when the socially/politically “hard” right would deny me the right to exist as a queer/trans person.
Intersectionality between artists and queer people is also a very big thing, come to think of it.
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The moral high horse is wooden.
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E.g.,“if a machine made to replicate a “median high quality digital art” style is producing results very close to what we are doing - maybe we’ve all collectively been doing too similar things and it’s a good time to mix stuff up” - due to how data is collected and reprocessed by AI, it can be viewed as kind of a warped mirror onto today’s digital art and various interesting observations made.
It’s not a “now compete with the machine, else it’s entitlement” argument and I’m not lending AI any legitimacy there. If you quote me, quote the exact words.
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You do your tribe proud.
Not a tankie neither. In the wide sphere with some beliefs, but not a tankie.
Don’t even try. Your petty tribalism and prepared victim-complex is disgusting. Obahar really has pinned you rightly so many times.
I’ve been put on the stand for this exact boogeyman made-up argument before in these same very threads.
God created you, just like he created me. God loves you just as he loves me. We are all equal before Him. No one is better than the other, and we’ll all be judged equally. You’ve free will, just like me. You have a right to exist just as I do. We are equal. I don’t have the right (legally nor per Scripture) to hurt you, nor “deny your right to exist”. I stick to myself, I live my own life, and could not care less about others as I am only in charge of my own salvation and choices/actions in the end. Whether I morally agree with another person is a different story, but God will be the judge in the end, not me.
Do not pin the deeds of extremist Protestants and whacko’s out on line with my religion and the Holy Mother Church on my shoulders. Disgusting.
Wow…
He really went there.
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when jesus comes back he’ll be so pissed off with you guys
I was raised Catholic and attended Catholic primary and secondary schools, I am aware of its behaviours. A socially/politically right-wing person will vote for people with corresponding beliefs, who will then push for those harmful policies that would render me mentally unwell rather than self-identifying.
(edited this post instead of making a new comment accidentally)
Don’t try to grandstand with your “battery acid” post history.
I am a single-issue voter. I voted for the progressive/leftist party in past elections (Swedish People’s Party, Finland)
Take your own advice.
I do not have access to a time machine to be able to tell what you meant in the future, Emberblast. I took your initial post as stating that if you feel threathened by an AI (untrained on other people’s art, mind you), then maybe it is indeed a time to try something else or improve.
Maybe you should have written this post instead of your former one initially instead?
Don’t forget the general tone of attempting to divide people. Hate the brown or poor and deport the foreign.
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My general point was that it’s not something you can shove off onto the Protestant section of Christianity because Catholicism is equally culpable, but I do respect your priorities in being pro-worker more than pro-conservatism.
I very much can, and I very much am. For what was discussed (unlike what I wrote) is not part of our singular, traditional, non-interpretation based faith. Such is the way, as you should know as someone raised Catholic. Neither the Pontiff, nor the Church agrees with your claims.
Your “respect” is useless to me, seeing how you’ve hammered me, vague-posted me, spun wild theories and backhanded suspicions about me, and then try to fence-ride and sass me thereafter. Be better, God bless.
It is, but nowhere it states that “otherwise it’s entitlement” or that the AI is somehow justified in pushing you out. Let’s split the blame between my wording skills and your reading comprehension.
Also,
Within the context of what we’re talking about (generative AI for images) they don’t exist, so I dunno where that came from.