AI Art as character reference (And now some very unrelated conversation)

Fairly obvious since all of them are classic characters.

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I take issue with this, maybe it’s me not understanding, but why is the onus on the other person and not your lack of understanding? It’s the negativity of the statement that irks me more than the statement itself.

Calling people bad is unfavourable, it could and should have been worded with more tact, but that is maybe hoping for too much on a forum.

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I understand. AI uses all the images of the internet. Who was harmed in my example?

The starving artist, clearly!

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Yeah I do think so as well. It’s not me.

All of the people these images were taken from, it’s intellectual property theft. Intellectual property, by definition, can be stolen multiple times by multiple people

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Don’t worry we’re all sat in a discord voice chat reading peoples posts out in dramatic voices.

Any artist who ended up needing to fight AI creators trying to claim their pieces as their own or losing out on work.

Your example might seem harmless to you, but by you using that tool, you enable its use for those who use it far more insidiously, especially so since the tool you used itself is built on bad practices.

It’s rotten to the core, and even if you use it for “good” intentions, you using it only furthers its existence and thus enabling the negative impact.

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What an odd take. I don’t think anyone enjoys having their hard work taken and used without credit regardless of the profession, made worse by the sheer volume AI is able to do it at.

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I am unsure how to explain this to you but I will try my best!

You are thinking of theft in a very black and white thinking, we live in a world now with much more nuance to it, and I understand it can be very difficult to comprehend that with how new of a concept it is.

AI data models are created using scraped data found online, there is no way to consent or more importantly remove your consent to these things yet. We have an innate right to our data, and when someone takes that it is taking your property as pixellated and digital that it is.

Ah I understand! I had not thought of it that way, but I suppose that also works too! Reading comprehension is a skill like any other, and something we all need to work on and improve too, which we do over time! However, I think both things can be true, that I must be better at reading and others must be better at writing, the fun is we both get to learn!

I apologise you see what I’m saying as a negative thing, I think it is good that we are in a space where people have the opportunity to fail and learn. I wish I could explain to you better that I do not see being bad at something as negatively as you do, to me being bad is great, as it means you are trying and learning and growing!

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Why it is not illegal if it is intellectual property theft?

I can see this point if the image looks very similar to existing art. Then it is just a bad copy. If you wanna sell slight modifications of art as your own, it is really easy for me to understand that it is wrong.

However, if the AI does something very different, than I don’t see the theft.

The brave knights come to defend poor raphael!
Be still my quivering heart.

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The law not being able to keep up with technology is extremely common.

In essence, that is what AI ‘art’ is. It’s running a bunch of images through the meat grinder without permission and using the result.

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Without a doubt. We’re all improving and learning until our final moments, or at least I hope most people try to continue to improve.

Being called bad at anything is a fairly negative comment to make, though I understand the context behind it better now. All i’d say is that there are better ways to phrase this that isn’t so curt, or maybe i’m just coddling people at this point.

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AI generated images do not count as art and, to me, will never count as art.

Tech-bro’s and NFT enthusiasts can cling to their crumbling JPG’s as that whole avenue crumbles around them into worthless jumbles of letters and numbers on a chain lmao.

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threads taking an AD customary swerve, huh

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It’s also a scam, as the big and popular examples often used as “Look what amazing art this AI could do” is 100% of the time either straight up done by someone else and then simply said to be AI, or extremely touched up in post-production by an actual human.

There is yet to be an example that wasn’t styled up in some way or another manually by a person afterwards.

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Swerve? Nah, we off the damn cliff side road at this point, half way the mountain

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NFTs made for some pretty funy memes though.

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My apologies! I recognise now that while I may not see it as a negative thing, others may. I have grown up doing art and going to art school, that I am very used to it! I recognise others may not respond as well as I do now and I’ll try to find a way to sugar-coat it in future. I do not want to make anyone feel less than they are!

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