If AI is the future and is meant to be so great, you’d think the techbos trying to sell people on it would be less obnoxious.
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If the same people pushing computer generated images (and other forms of media) weren’t the same ones who tried to get us to buy into NFTs, maybe I’d pay a bit more attention. Maybe.
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You’ll never resist, not completely.
Anyway now back to the topic at hand.
AI as a tool for artists is entirely fine I think. As I stated before you can use it quite well to enhance your own artwork. I’m not talking about people simply putting in junk prompts and getting generic pieces.
There are AI art tools out there that let you upload your own work and improve the quality of what you have produced by your own hand as well.
And again, there needs to be a clear distinction between personal use (ie for hobbies such as DND or Roleplay or any sort of medium where a visual stimuli is useful) and taking it and passing it off as your own work without any additional work done on it via other third party tools like Photoshop or Vegas.
And since you brought it up, I will have to chime in on this as well. I’m sorry but its 2023, people with varying conditions that might hinder their ability should have the means to meaningfully be able to create things close to their intention.
If someone wants to draw with their toes that’s their prerogative but it doesn’t override the wishes of someone who does not.
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When someone enthusiastically talks about AI, NFT and crypto, my brain turns off & or triggers a flight response.
My dream use-case for AI-generated imagery is every artist having their own model of their own style, allowing them to skip certain tediums in the process and work on improving themselves even further to even greater heights.
That is, of the artist’s own wish and accord, a tool like every other.
Mine generally triggers the fight part of the fight or flight.
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The same people who accidentally used UV paint instead of luminous paint and got an entire NFT convention a-couple-hours-of-staring-into-the-sun closer to blindness.
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The super scams of our age.
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I am one of the people you speak of, I was born with disabilities that impact how I draw and make it very difficult and painful. Using us as an excuse for AI generation does far more damage to disabled people than you may intend. I understand you speak from a place that wants to help defend us, but it perpetuates the ableist idea that someone can be born too disabled to create meaningful art, something incredibly harmful. I hope you can understand this line of thinking, while you in no way intend for it, is damaging to the disabled community.
Disabled people can, and always have, created meaningful intentional artwork. Creating art has always been accessible to us. Please do not speak for us like that.
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You’d think with their megabucks from selling NFT’s they would have the money to pay for proper paint.
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I like AI dungeon
dudes online trying to run artists out of business by techromancering their style with a machine, not so much
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AI Dungeon used to be much better until the Helen Lovejoys of the internet discovered it.
Now you can’t progress if the response so much thinks of a euphemism for breasts.
Using AI to generate content, which has been created via stolen content. Is not meaningful.
It’s theft.
There is no excuse for AI generated content.
Please don’t speak For us in that way.
However, AI as a TOOL is different but techbro’s have been crossing the line when it comes to that too.
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I do apologise if this sounds insensitive, but if there is a condition that makes you unable to express yourself creatively in a specific way, then that is unfortunately the case.
I’d say it is better to find another way to be able to still have that creative expression instead of relying on something that is inherently pretty scummy in its current iteration down to its core.
That is an unfortunate part of life, yet its still there. Not everyone will be able to do something, but everyone should be able to find and have a way to express themselves in a different way.
Cliffnote version: If you can’t draw for whatever reason, find another outlet that lets you get that creativity out. Or find tools to help that still rely on you and not taking off others work.
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Moreover, I’d state that art only has meaning when made by a person (or one of those elephants who grab a paint brush with their trunk). Take the human out of the process and you take out the humanity.
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I don’t understand the argument that AI art is stealing. Usually, when I steal something from someone, they don’t have it anymore. This is obviously not the case here. You might compare it with piracy, like watching a series without paying Netflix or anyone else. But this is also not the same cause art on the internet is usually not pay-to-watch. That would be art in a museum. I understand that the AI do not have permissions from the artists to use their images, but if it is stealing, what do they take away from them? It is stealing cause people use AI art instead of commisions, which might eventually ruin the professional commision artists? That’s the only thing I can come up with to understand the stealing argument. But it does not affect all uses of AI images, and I have an actual example of it:
Recently a DM in a plot I was in used AI art. The plot tooik place in a timerift where his main toon was mechanized cause it was in the Mechagon-Azeroth timeline. He had a description and a flag for his mechanized toon, but an AI generated image of his mechanized toon as well. I thought this was a nice bonus. It was not there to replace his written description, it was just some additional thing, same as music to increase the immersion many DMs sometimes use for their plots. I don’t see any reason to pay a commision or even spend many hours to draw for an NPC, enemy, monster, creature etc. However, it is nice to have an image. I also like a TRP Extended item or a toy or trinket effect in addition to a simple emote. AI images are just another tool to increase immersion if used wisely.
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The beauty of art is that can be created and expressed in so many different ways, but it relies on that human touch and spark in a sense.
Is someone just liking this post with all of their alts or something
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As explained, the creation of this image was done by scrounging the internet for other people’s artwork then mesh it together to create it.
AI cant create out of thin air, it requires training or useage of people’s already existing things, and does so without consent.
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I invited some friends from Classic WoW to judge the thread with me.
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